10-24-2014, 08:48 PM
cory Wrote:For one the 260 only beats the Grendel by 200-300 fps. Picking up 100+ fps isn't exactly trivial. However, you're correct you can not make the Grendel a .260 or anything of the like. What you can do is increase the options available.
Cory, I would disagree. For the added cost of having to buy new mags, etc. 100 FPS is trivial. It's simply not enough. I can get the same by going to a 4-6 inch longer barrel, and still use the same loads and mags I have. For close in shooting, it doesn't matter at all, both 2 and 4 legged targets see no difference between 2500 and 2700 FPS out to 500 yards.
Would a longer mag not allow for loading the Barnes 120gr TTSX longer allowing for NEEDED powder, or allow for loading the Barnes 127gr LRX???
Sure, but there simply isn't enough powder space to drive them fast enough AND keep the bullet in the neck. You pick up may 1-2 grains seating long, that isn't enough to justify.[/B]
How could having a reliable PMAG for the Grendel not be a GOOD thing??? The E Landers are great, but will still rattle sometimes when at full capacity. The fact is the AR15 magwell is to narrow for the Grendel to stack appropriately.
Because it isn't a PMAG for the Grendel, its a PMAG for completely new rifle, and for one that would require huge expense to gain almost no performance.
Stanc I share your concerns withe 68 Pmag, but if it could be demonstrated to work I'm open to it.
The SAAMI Grendel Chamber at max tolerances doesn't allow for you to load 0.020" off the lands, that's desired for optimal accuracy. A longer mag would fix that.
As I've said in other threads like this one. A receiver set like this would allow for a 7mm Assault Rifle type cartridge to be brought to market. That'd be very interesting.
DPMS beat us there with the new .308 platform. That platform is ripe to be exploited exactly how you describe. Same weight as an AR15, essentially, with .308/.284/6.5 Creedmoor case capacities.
After the Saudi contract and the Elander mag, something tells me that it's feasible that Israel could pick up the Grendel. I think it's more likely that they'd do it in the right bull pup, but a modified AR platform could certainly make it more feasible.
If PF does this and it's not to heavy, I'll be switching all of my Grendels over.
Nope, I don't see enough advantage and I see LOTS of confusion coloring the picture.
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