02-27-2014, 05:20 PM
mongoosesnipe Wrote:so you think we should have hot super grendel ammo available that will break any gun it goes into other than an idealistic super grendel, and you think that will be a selling point to get another major ammo maker into the grendel market......
No, no, no that's not what I mean. When a casual shooter/hunter starts looking into a non traditional round, what's the first thing they compare? Muzzle Velocity. We all know that's a mute point with the 6.5's ballistics, the casual shooter/hunter doesn't know that. If that MV can turn someone to the Grendel as opposed to another round, that's another potential customer for the major ammo manufacturers.
That's what it'll take to bring the Winchesters and other guys online with the Grendel, X# of potential customers.
I'm in non way saying we push the Grendel to magnum pressures (65ksi). I'm only suggesting the 58ksi, which would make it still safe for hand loaders to load to ~60ksi with only a shortened bolt life. Which I don't even know if 60ksi would be possible with current powder selection and the Grendel's max powder capacity.
If an ammo manufacturer were to offer rounds in that pressure (58ksi), and a box of that ammo was put into the original AR15 design by mistake the weapon would be fine assuming the weapon was built properly. It would take a significant amount of bad decisions to see the problems you mention. What would likely happen is we'd see +P Grendel ammo.
More choices for the Grendel horde, how is this a bad thing?
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