How could or should the 6.5 mm Grendel be improved?

[bwaites]

If Guardsman made a mistake, it was in coming onto the 6.5 Grendel forum and asking how to improve upon 6.5 Grendel. It's usually a waste of time to ask people who are emotionally and/or financially invested in their pet cartridge for ideas on how to make it better. They tend to think it's great just the way it is. (And that reaction isn't limited to this forum.)

I would disagree completely. We've spent a considerable amount of time making the Grendel better...better bullets, lots of experimentation with powder and primers, comparisons of brass between Lapua, Wolf, and Hornady, etc.

The real issue is trying to hit a target that doesn't really exist. Tell us what your goals are, tell us the parameters, and we'll be more than happy to help improve the Grendel, but you can't do that by telling us what you DON'T want. IE...we don't want a .308 size cartridge, we don't want .308 recoil, etc. You cannot define a standard with negatives.

Define it by saying:

We want MOA accuracy at 400 yards.

We want 800 foot pounds of energy at 1000 yards

We want recoil of 7 pounds or less.

We want 300 rounds of ammo to weigh 27 pounds or less.

(All of these numbers are completely spurious, but make my point. You can't define it on the backside.)

Give us end results and positive goals, and we'll be glad to help. We'll also be glad to say...You can't get there from here! We've told guys that the Grendel isn't really a 1000 yard competition cartridge. We've told guys you can't be competitive in F Class Open with the Grendel, (though I think in 600 yard matches it might be useful.)

But you can't ask us how to improve the Grendel with some nebulous goal. It doesn't work like that.