Guardsman26 so there are defined requirements in the government realm. Which government are we talking UK, USA, combination of the two, NATO? I fully understand there's only so much you can say. What governments were in the meeting you mentioned?
Let me ask you this which is more of a priority the Grendel exceeding 7.62 terminal effectiveness or barrier penetration at 1000 yards?
I take it from your post that the gov. you've been talking about has done test with the Grendel firing a FMJ. Is there anything in those results you could share?
The current requirements we have are replace multiple military ARs, LMGs, DMRs and multiple military rounds with a single AR, LMG, DMR using a single FMJ round.
What we need is John Galt to design us this mythical beast as he designed the engine which converts energy from atmospheric static electricity.
Please don't take that remark at a shot at you or anybody, but to put the military wishlist into perspective.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but as it sits the Grendel can exceed 7.62 performance with the right round.
I believe these are the only two feasible options and I ask this from a Grunt perspective, which is the more ideal scenario the grunts being supplied two calibers with FMJ rounds and issued multiple ARs, LMGs, and DMRs that will all individually excel in their respective environment or is it more ideal to issue the grunts one AR, LMG, DMR, and caliber with each platform receiving a round specifically designed to compliment the platform while operating sufficiently in all platforms?
I understand the multiple rounds is a logistic nightmare, but is the current situation not a logistic nightmare two calibers with multiple rounds for each caliber? Either way this goes logistics is going to having multiple rounds to deal with. I propose we assume logistics is not a factor and continue this exercise to benefit the grunts understanding that logistics won't get their ideal scenario without drastically compromising the lethality of the grunts.
What's worse case scenario of one caliber of AR, LMG, DMR, and multiple rounds. The DM is only able to fill his magazines with AR rounds? Let us not forget that the SAWs ability to accept a 556 mag was a huge advantage in its favor.
That being said if anything needs to be improved I'd suspect it'd be the bolt. Not so that the AR round can be pushed beyond 50ksi, but so that the AR can utilize the LMG and DMR round if necessary.
Let me ask you this which is more of a priority the Grendel exceeding 7.62 terminal effectiveness or barrier penetration at 1000 yards?
I take it from your post that the gov. you've been talking about has done test with the Grendel firing a FMJ. Is there anything in those results you could share?
The current requirements we have are replace multiple military ARs, LMGs, DMRs and multiple military rounds with a single AR, LMG, DMR using a single FMJ round.
What we need is John Galt to design us this mythical beast as he designed the engine which converts energy from atmospheric static electricity.
Please don't take that remark at a shot at you or anybody, but to put the military wishlist into perspective.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but as it sits the Grendel can exceed 7.62 performance with the right round.
I believe these are the only two feasible options and I ask this from a Grunt perspective, which is the more ideal scenario the grunts being supplied two calibers with FMJ rounds and issued multiple ARs, LMGs, and DMRs that will all individually excel in their respective environment or is it more ideal to issue the grunts one AR, LMG, DMR, and caliber with each platform receiving a round specifically designed to compliment the platform while operating sufficiently in all platforms?
I understand the multiple rounds is a logistic nightmare, but is the current situation not a logistic nightmare two calibers with multiple rounds for each caliber? Either way this goes logistics is going to having multiple rounds to deal with. I propose we assume logistics is not a factor and continue this exercise to benefit the grunts understanding that logistics won't get their ideal scenario without drastically compromising the lethality of the grunts.
What's worse case scenario of one caliber of AR, LMG, DMR, and multiple rounds. The DM is only able to fill his magazines with AR rounds? Let us not forget that the SAWs ability to accept a 556 mag was a huge advantage in its favor.
That being said if anything needs to be improved I'd suspect it'd be the bolt. Not so that the AR round can be pushed beyond 50ksi, but so that the AR can utilize the LMG and DMR round if necessary.
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