01-17-2013, 01:25 PM
stanc Wrote:Agreed, but this part can be considered no longer relevant.The M4 carbine (the musket of our day) may not be available to the vast majority of private citizens, but it should be. That would be directly within the intent of the second amendment. The same as M9's, M14's, M1's, M1 carbines, M2 carbines, SAW's, M60's, 870's, 590's, etc., etc., etc... all either ARE or SHOULD be. The NFA was a travesty, and should have never happened. It needs abolished. The Federal .gov's denying us of our inalienable rights does not make them less relevant. It makes the .gov despotic.
First, almost all modern military weapons are not available to the vast majority of private citizens, therefore competency is not possible.
Second, necessary training for most modern weapons is provided by the armed forces.
However, the Federalist papers are not law. What is in the Constitution is what the OP addressed.
The DOD does provide training to it's members, but it does not assist "the people" as a whole in acquiring that competency. Further evidence of our being denied the chance by the government. They could equip and train us like the Swiss, or simply stop infringing on our rights.
The whole story of U.S. vs. Miller makes my head nearly explode every time I even think about it. That was one of the biggest shams ever pulled on "the people". The whole story reads like very bad fiction, and it's extremely hard to believe it even did happen. Those bastards should have been held directly accountable for the stunt they pulled off.
That the entire NFA doesn't comprise an unconstitutional infringement is a farce on it's very face, and that BS needs corrected.
Lest people think I'm unreasonable and insisting on a 2nd Amnd. right to nuclear warheads, I would be amenable to possible NFA type restrictions on crew served weapons and above, as they do not normally comprise "individual" weapons. They might be argued as unsuitable for individual militia member (whether organized or not) usage on those grounds. It might be suitable for them to be treated differently. Even then I wonder though. I seriously doubt George Washington would have taken issue with my possessing a 6 pounder.... If anything, that's where the debate should lie in reference to protected arms possession. Should "Variable" have a "right" possess an 81mm mortar? A 155mm howitzer? I'd vote for allowing it (LOL
), but I'm not sure it'd be a "right". That's where our debate should be. Look how far they've pushed the "Overton Window" on us.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton_window
It's sickening that they've been allowed to get away with it, and now they are trying to push it even farther.
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