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Bill lets commanders ask about troops' guns
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Nukes Wrote:As a "reformed" ER doc, most of my 30 years experience in CA (but have been licensed and worked in 6 states), I heartily disagree with the "mental health" tangent that some hope will avert gun bans. This is just more incrementalism, more "back door" gun bans.

The "5150" (danger to self, others, or unable to care for self) process is seriously abused already. I have provided expert witness assistance to patients who have been 5150'd by ER docs vengeful against patients who were appropriately assertive or sometimes minimally annoying. Of the states where I have experience, in my opinion only Idaho has meaningful procedural impediments to that kind of abuse, abuse that can permanently revoke gun rights or otherwise destroy a patient's life.

Be very careful of the "if it only saves one life" rationale lest we all be hoisted on that petard.

The main thrust of the Kenyan's "executive orders" today were directed towards further abuse of the patient-physician relationship. What he intends are clearly ethical "boundary violations." The banksters' puppet-in-chief also ordered the resumption of the prostitution of medical research in the service of the victim disarmament agenda. In the mid 90's I was active in the successful effort to expose and unfund the Centers for Disease Control gun ban prostitutes. They have remained unfunded until today's order #14 (at least by CNN's numbering).

Time to dust off my "testify to Congress" suit.

Let me add this. Recall that our now-rescinded social contract barred ex post facto laws. Recall how the stroke of a pen made prior misdemeanor "domestic violence" problems justification for permanent revocation of gun rights. Consider then how many soldiers (or civilians) have gone to the doctor during brief and normal periods of grief and may have been prescribed, appropriately or not, one or more psychotropic drugs (SSRIs, benzos, barbs, etc.). Consider how those old but permanent medical records can now be abused ex post facto. You are all aware, of course, that the HIPAA "privacy" law actually allows insurance companies and government agencies shared access to the "private" medical records that your doctor sends to get his bill paid by your insurance (or welfare) carrier. Anyone notice how preppers and gun owners are being set up to be defined prima facie as mentally ill? Can anyone recall who perfected the use of psychiatric hospitals against political enemies?

Shall we really allow the mental illness witch hunt begin? 'nuff said.

That's exactly what I worry about with all this talk about mental health reform. While agreed these people need better access, I don't trust the government! They've given me no reason to trust them and every reason not too.
"Those who sacrifice liberty for security, deserve neither." Benjamin Franklin
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Bill lets commanders ask about troops' guns - by Nukes - 01-16-2013, 11:15 PM
Bill lets commanders ask about troops' guns - by cory - 01-17-2013, 12:15 AM
Bill lets commanders ask about troops' guns - by hm2 clark - 01-17-2013, 01:46 AM
Bill lets commanders ask about troops' guns - by Deer Hunter - 01-17-2013, 02:02 AM
Bill lets commanders ask about troops' guns - by Nukes - 01-17-2013, 02:36 AM
Bill lets commanders ask about troops' guns - by LRRPF52 - 01-17-2013, 04:01 AM

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