Stopping Power by Caliber Part 2
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bwaites Wrote:The mini14 is a lethal tool at the ranges of the Miami shooting. It's not particularly accurate past 100 yards, but at 20-30 yards its a scary weapon.

And yet the volumes of internet conventional wisdom is they are a waste of time, sub-standard, unreliable, never finished a carbine class, etc. Much less the never ending debates about stopping power, 7075 vs 6061-T651 billet lowers, 4140 vs 4150, etc.

One other interesting stat from another site..... one well known carbine expert who teaches lot's of classes is indicating they see typical 3-5 MOA from carbines. While I've heard of mini's shooting badly, I've never seen one worse than that. I know my old & well worn GB SS mini is nowhere near as accurate as my grendels, and probably even my son's 5.56 m4gery. But I can run it with my eyes closed, chamber a round & press check, and be in business much faster than my AR's. Especially in the dark. So it's my go-to gun at the house.

The mishandled 10mm FBI testing is even worse... I shoot 10mm since the Delta Elite was released, and it's laughable to me that the folks who said it was too hard to handle now advocate super light 9 and 40 wonder pistols. And .45's for entry work. 10mm even in full power loadings is much easier to shoot fast & accurate when shot side by side in gov models. Just less rock. Stings the palm harder, but rocks less when used with full power loadings. Same for the wonder-9 crop of sigs, etc. And also much easier to hit with at 25 yards or longer, which is why I switched from .45 to 10mm.
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Stopping Power by Caliber Part 2 - by bwaites - 06-05-2011, 03:40 PM
Stopping Power by Caliber Part 2 - by warped - 06-05-2011, 06:06 PM
Stopping Power by Caliber Part 2 - by bwaites - 06-05-2011, 06:39 PM
Stopping Power by Caliber Part 2 - by RangerRick - 06-05-2011, 07:56 PM
Stopping Power by Caliber Part 2 - by RStewart - 06-05-2011, 09:12 PM
Stopping Power by Caliber Part 2 - by bwaites - 06-05-2011, 09:19 PM
Stopping Power by Caliber Part 2 - by VASCAR2 - 06-06-2011, 01:01 AM
Stopping Power by Caliber Part 2 - by bwaites - 06-06-2011, 01:51 AM
Stopping Power by Caliber Part 2 - by RStewart - 06-06-2011, 02:00 PM
Stopping Power by Caliber Part 2 - by pinzgauer - 06-06-2011, 02:23 PM
Stopping Power by Caliber Part 2 - by warped - 06-06-2011, 02:57 PM
Stopping Power by Caliber Part 2 - by warped - 06-06-2011, 02:58 PM
Stopping Power by Caliber Part 2 - by noone - 06-06-2011, 03:53 PM
Stopping Power by Caliber Part 2 - by pinzgauer - 06-06-2011, 04:14 PM
Stopping Power by Caliber Part 2 - by bwaites - 06-06-2011, 04:30 PM
Stopping Power by Caliber Part 2 - by RStewart - 06-06-2011, 04:38 PM
Stopping Power by Caliber Part 2 - by pinzgauer - 06-06-2011, 05:31 PM
Stopping Power by Caliber Part 2 - by LRRPF52 - 06-06-2011, 05:42 PM
Stopping Power by Caliber Part 2 - by bwaites - 06-06-2011, 06:06 PM
Stopping Power by Caliber Part 2 - by LRRPF52 - 06-06-2011, 08:04 PM
Stopping Power by Caliber Part 2 - by warped - 06-07-2011, 01:39 AM
Stopping Power by Caliber Part 2 - by LRRPF52 - 06-07-2011, 02:16 AM
Stopping Power by Caliber Part 2 - by JASmith - 06-07-2011, 01:11 PM
Stopping Power by Caliber Part 2 - by LRRPF52 - 06-07-2011, 03:40 PM
Stopping Power by Caliber Part 2 - by LRRPF52 - 06-08-2011, 03:18 AM
Stopping Power by Caliber Part 2 - by warped - 06-08-2011, 03:33 AM
Stopping Power by Caliber Part 2 - by JASmith - 06-08-2011, 03:55 AM
Stopping Power by Caliber Part 2 - by rasp65 - 06-08-2011, 05:05 PM
Stopping Power by Caliber Part 2 - by RangerRick - 06-08-2011, 07:30 PM
Stopping Power by Caliber Part 2 - by LRRPF52 - 06-08-2011, 08:02 PM
Stopping Power by Caliber Part 2 - by warped - 06-09-2011, 12:49 AM
Stopping Power by Caliber Part 2 - by LRRPF52 - 06-09-2011, 04:39 AM
Stopping Power by Caliber Part 2 - by stanc - 06-11-2011, 11:55 PM
Stopping Power by Caliber Part 2 - by JASmith - 06-12-2011, 12:35 AM
Stopping Power by Caliber Part 2 - by LR1955 - 06-12-2011, 12:44 AM
Stopping Power by Caliber Part 2 - by stanc - 06-12-2011, 12:57 AM
Stopping Power by Caliber Part 2 - by JASmith - 06-12-2011, 01:18 AM
Stopping Power by Caliber Part 2 - by stanc - 06-12-2011, 01:24 AM
Stopping Power by Caliber Part 2 - by stanc - 06-12-2011, 01:35 AM
Stopping Power by Caliber Part 2 - by JASmith - 06-12-2011, 01:51 AM
Stopping Power by Caliber Part 2 - by LR1955 - 06-12-2011, 03:30 PM
Stopping Power by Caliber Part 2 - by stanc - 06-12-2011, 05:08 PM
Stopping Power by Caliber Part 2 - by JASmith - 06-12-2011, 06:02 PM
Stopping Power by Caliber Part 2 - by LR1955 - 06-13-2011, 01:20 AM
Stopping Power by Caliber Part 2 - by JASmith - 06-13-2011, 01:59 AM
Stopping Power by Caliber Part 2 - by LR1955 - 06-13-2011, 12:04 PM
Stopping Power by Caliber Part 2 - by JASmith - 06-13-2011, 02:03 PM
Stopping Power by Caliber Part 2 - by noone - 06-18-2011, 05:05 PM
Stopping Power by Caliber Part 2 - by LRRPF52 - 06-30-2011, 06:06 PM
Stopping Power by Caliber Part 2 - by mtn_shooter - 07-07-2011, 11:54 PM
Stopping Power by Caliber Part 2 - by LRRPF52 - 07-12-2011, 06:35 PM
Stopping Power by Caliber Part 2 - by bwaites - 07-12-2011, 07:22 PM
Stopping Power by Caliber Part 2 - by RangerRick - 07-13-2011, 06:07 AM
Stopping Power by Caliber Part 2 - by LRRPF52 - 07-13-2011, 06:17 AM
Stopping Power by Caliber Part 2 - by LRRPF52 - 07-13-2011, 06:43 AM
Stopping Power by Caliber Part 2 - by LRRPF52 - 07-13-2011, 09:01 PM
Stopping Power by Caliber Part 2 - by RangerRick - 07-14-2011, 02:36 AM
Stopping Power by Caliber Part 2 - by LRRPF52 - 07-14-2011, 12:18 PM
Stopping Power by Caliber Part 2 - by warped - 07-23-2011, 05:24 PM
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