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Anyone come up with a action Cycling Subsonic Load yet
Well, I made it out the range this morning. I started with TxGunner's loads. Every round successfully ejected the empty. But it never successfully loaded the next round or locked back on an empty magazine.

First, my hardware:
16" AA barrel, mid-length gas system
1:8" twist rate
"Standard" carbine buffer, tube and spring

I do have another lower with a rifle tube, buffer and spring. I have fired the Grendel upper on both lowers, and they function interchangeably with full power loads. I did not think to try the rifle lower today. Maybe next time.

All loads were 8208 powder under the 160 grain Hornady RN (0.264).

I had some Wolf (PPU) brass with large rifle mag primers.

I also shot some out of Hornady brass using small rifle magnums. Surprisingly, the hornady brass was giving 200-300 fps faster for the same charge.

Brass / Charge / Avg Vel / StdDev / ES
Wolf / 13.9 / 1110 / 56 / 109
Wolf / 13.7 / 1086 / 19 / 27 - 2-shot group
Wolf / 13.5 / 1182 / 66 / 131
Horn / 13.9 / 1417 / 109 / 154 - 2-shot
Horn / 13.7 / 1371 / 67 / 95 - 2-shot
Horn / 13.5 / 1265 / 142 / 201 - 2-shot


Point of impact is about 3" below my full power loads at 50 yards.

My 1:8 barrel is not stabilizing the 160s. All of the sub 1200 fps rounds were keyholing.

An interesting side note: the 160 grain round nose want to fall into the hornady cases once they get a little past the cannelure. Someone on here commented they noticed that, but I can't remember who. In order to get them to hold, I put the hornady's back through the sizer just enough to increase the neck tension. I had no problems with the Wolf brass holding the bullets.
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Anyone come up with a action Cycling Subsonic Load yet - by samalama76 - 02-20-2012, 04:24 PM
Anyone come up with a action Cycling Subsonic Load yet - by Retooferab - 02-23-2012, 03:38 AM
Anyone come up with a action Cycling Subsonic Load yet - by QuadCam - 03-01-2012, 01:40 PM
Anyone come up with a action Cycling Subsonic Load yet - by Rambozo - 03-22-2012, 04:45 PM
Anyone come up with a action Cycling Subsonic Load yet - by JASmith - 04-29-2012, 01:39 PM
Anyone come up with a action Cycling Subsonic Load yet - by LRRPF52 - 05-04-2012, 06:18 AM
Anyone come up with a action Cycling Subsonic Load yet - by Dacapster - 05-08-2012, 01:57 AM
Anyone come up with a action Cycling Subsonic Load yet - by JASmith - 05-15-2012, 03:07 PM
Anyone come up with a action Cycling Subsonic Load yet - by JASmith - 05-18-2012, 02:18 PM
Anyone come up with a action Cycling Subsonic Load yet - by Shooter - 05-19-2012, 02:04 AM
Anyone come up with a action Cycling Subsonic Load yet - by LRRPF52 - 05-21-2012, 05:14 PM
Anyone come up with a action Cycling Subsonic Load yet - by heavy65 - 05-26-2012, 06:54 AM
Anyone come up with a action Cycling Subsonic Load yet - by heavy65 - 05-26-2012, 07:05 PM
Anyone come up with a action Cycling Subsonic Load yet - by ricsmall - 05-26-2012, 11:07 PM
Anyone come up with a action Cycling Subsonic Load yet - by Smokepole50 - 06-14-2012, 11:30 PM
Anyone come up with a action Cycling Subsonic Load yet - by Smokepole50 - 07-17-2012, 11:16 PM
Anyone come up with a action Cycling Subsonic Load yet - by Smokepole50 - 07-31-2012, 02:51 PM
Anyone come up with a action Cycling Subsonic Load yet - by TxAggie94 - 08-17-2012, 11:47 AM
Anyone come up with a action Cycling Subsonic Load yet - by Lead Chucker - 08-18-2012, 02:43 AM
Anyone come up with a action Cycling Subsonic Load yet - by TxAggie94 - 08-30-2012, 10:09 PM
Anyone come up with a action Cycling Subsonic Load yet - by TxAggie94 - 08-30-2012, 11:09 PM
Anyone come up with a action Cycling Subsonic Load yet - by TxAggie94 - 08-31-2012, 12:51 PM
Anyone come up with a action Cycling Subsonic Load yet - by Lead Chucker - 09-02-2012, 01:24 PM
Anyone come up with a action Cycling Subsonic Load yet - by GregP42 - 10-03-2012, 06:55 PM
Anyone come up with a action Cycling Subsonic Load yet - by GregP42 - 10-06-2012, 04:49 PM
Anyone come up with a action Cycling Subsonic Load yet - by GregP42 - 10-07-2012, 02:45 AM
Anyone come up with a action Cycling Subsonic Load yet - by TxAggie94 - 11-30-2012, 11:20 AM
Anyone come up with a action Cycling Subsonic Load yet - by JASmith - 11-30-2012, 01:53 PM
Anyone come up with a action Cycling Subsonic Load yet - by robk0000 - 02-05-2013, 04:19 AM
Anyone come up with a action Cycling Subsonic Load yet - by joker31 - 09-28-2013, 07:01 AM
Anyone come up with a action Cycling Subsonic Load yet - by joker31 - 09-28-2013, 09:02 PM

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