05-10-2011, 12:18 PM
JASmith Wrote:Looking forward to your more detailed draft specs -- even more, I am eagerly awaiting the opportunity to comment. I've designed or played with a few "barrier" targets for military applications - but none involving small arms. If I recall correctly, there are some standard specs for the 7.62 involving single thicknesses of steel plate.
I also suggested to Tony and Stan in an offline message that the bullet be required to not significantly deform on penetration of bare gelatin. Deformation or breakup after perforating a barrier should be allowed.
I know you have same salient thoughts about trajectory for the assault rifle/carbine. They should be included in the discussion.
Cheers!
Joe
Joe:
There is a problem in defining a barrier based on a steel of any sort. Barriers are not monolithic (if that is the word to use). For example, we had to stop using RHA plate as a testing material when armor started to become laminates of different types and alloys of things.
What you guys need to do is to define the barriers that you require penetration. One of them will be some level of body armor as that stuff is appearing more regularly. Another will be sheet metal and automotive glass separated by some specific amount of space such as found for car and truck doors. A third may be some type of construction material if any is common throughout the world. Not sure of any others but they must be common throughout the world.
You guys are focusing solely on terminal effects and that is a serious mistake.
So, you have to decide what is more important -- penetration of hard things or terminal effects on humans.
LR1955