08-23-2023, 03:15 PM
I agree with everything said in this thread.
In particular the point that every single .gov .308 class rifle we use could be better served, and in some cases MUCH better served, with 6.5 Grendel. A case can be made that 6.5 Grendel is pushing it a bit in an AR15 and there may be an increase in field failures with standard M4 sized guns. (maybe) I think that can be overcome, but bolt breakages used to be a thing, and extractor breakages still kind of are - though again, that might just be poorer quality items not dimensioned quite right. But even if so, anything that's .308 class, can be notably downgraded to just a touch beefier than 5.56 class, and now you have a much lighter belt fed SAW that you can carry a whole lot more ammo for, that still packs that extended range and punch you wanted from the .308 vs 5.56. Actually better, once you get out there. And still have plenty of punch more than 5.56, at the closer ranges. Same for DMR's, and anything else we have in .308. I personally don't even own a .308, as it just is pointless to me. Since I started and still have Garands, I run 30-06 when I want a .30 cal bullet and .30 cal Nostalgia. And the 6.5mm diameter rounds when I want modern optimized general performance ammo. A case can be made for 6mmARC, but I still agree with Bill Alexanders philosophy on why he decided to make 6.5 Grendel, not 6mm Grendel - and stil think the Grendel is the better optimized general purpose do-all round.
In particular the point that every single .gov .308 class rifle we use could be better served, and in some cases MUCH better served, with 6.5 Grendel. A case can be made that 6.5 Grendel is pushing it a bit in an AR15 and there may be an increase in field failures with standard M4 sized guns. (maybe) I think that can be overcome, but bolt breakages used to be a thing, and extractor breakages still kind of are - though again, that might just be poorer quality items not dimensioned quite right. But even if so, anything that's .308 class, can be notably downgraded to just a touch beefier than 5.56 class, and now you have a much lighter belt fed SAW that you can carry a whole lot more ammo for, that still packs that extended range and punch you wanted from the .308 vs 5.56. Actually better, once you get out there. And still have plenty of punch more than 5.56, at the closer ranges. Same for DMR's, and anything else we have in .308. I personally don't even own a .308, as it just is pointless to me. Since I started and still have Garands, I run 30-06 when I want a .30 cal bullet and .30 cal Nostalgia. And the 6.5mm diameter rounds when I want modern optimized general performance ammo. A case can be made for 6mmARC, but I still agree with Bill Alexanders philosophy on why he decided to make 6.5 Grendel, not 6mm Grendel - and stil think the Grendel is the better optimized general purpose do-all round.
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