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CFE 223 Difficulty?
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I'm trying to work up a load for my Howa Mini (20" HB) using 123 SST's and CFE223. This Mini is my 3rd Grendel (I also had 24" and 16" AR's) and I have never been able to get CFE223 to agree with me...

This rifle shoots my trusty 90 TNT/H335 load sub-MOA (the top 6 shot group is a new batch that I loaded at the same time as the 2.248 and 2.245 COL SST loads, the bottom 4 were an old batch of the 90's)

[ATTACH=CONFIG]19804[/ATTACH]

But I shot through a box of 123 SST's with CFE223 and my groups ALL look like shotgun patterns...

[ATTACH=CONFIG]19805[/ATTACH]

I thought I was doing everything right, I've always kind of loaded haphazardly but I did this workup a little more strategically... Shot 15 rounds in .2gr increments, found the flat spot in the velocities. Shot 5 round groups at the charge weights that yielded the flat spot and got a single digit SD right in the middle at 30.6gr.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]19806[/ATTACH]

Then I started trying to dial a COL, started at 2.260 because I had to start somewhere, and worked my way down in .003" increments to 2.245" and didn't get a group better than 1.5".

Thoughts? Should I use the rest of the box to go up in length? My Howa has a Jefferson Outdoors BDL style floorplate and 2.3" fits into the magazine but I figured I should try to run shorter rather than longer for more reliable feeding.

Is my process not sound? The SD/ES of this load is significantly better than the 90 TNT load and all the manuals put the COL right in the 2.245-2.25ish range.

Does my Howa just not like 123 SST's, or CFE223? That would be hard to understand, although the 24" Brownells barrel and the 16" Faxon Barrel I have haven't shot CFE 223 either...

The rest of the recipe is:
Several times fired Hornady brass, torch annealed
CCI 450
Charges thrown with a powder measure and trickled to finish


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CFE 223 Difficulty? - by Snarf - 06-13-2023, 01:13 AM
CFE 223 Difficulty? - by dpete - 06-13-2023, 01:51 AM
CFE 223 Difficulty? - by DIANEB - 06-13-2023, 03:11 AM
CFE 223 Difficulty? - by Longrange2 - 06-13-2023, 03:24 AM
CFE 223 Difficulty? - by grayfox - 06-13-2023, 06:46 AM
CFE 223 Difficulty? - by Snarf - 06-13-2023, 11:11 AM
CFE 223 Difficulty? - by Harpoon1 - 06-13-2023, 12:23 PM
CFE 223 Difficulty? - by grayfox - 06-13-2023, 03:13 PM
CFE 223 Difficulty? - by Snarf - 06-13-2023, 08:42 PM
CFE 223 Difficulty? - by Harpoon1 - 06-14-2023, 03:24 PM
CFE 223 Difficulty? - by Snarf - 06-16-2023, 06:43 PM
CFE 223 Difficulty? - by Harpoon1 - 06-16-2023, 09:46 PM
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