11-19-2022, 05:25 PM
It is much easier to shoot bolt guns when going for tight groups since they dont have a hammer swinging inside the action, followed by a lot of reciprocating mass slamming back and forth.
If youre free-recoiling an AR-15 pistol, it wont group.
Same is true with my lightweight AR-15 rifles. If I free-recoil them, Ill get 1.5 - 2 groups.
When I man-up on the rifle and apply gas gun fundamentals with straight, rearward pull of the stock into my upper body, with aggressive rear bag support, I can rapid-fire ~ 1 MOA 5rd groups with the light-barreled guns, and anywhere from .3 to .6 MOA with the heavy-barreled Grendels.
Heres an example of groups I shot rapid-fire back-to-back, starting with a loose-hold/free recoil from a field position, then hunkered down using gas gun technique:
![[Image: 20201207_135258.jpg?width=590&height=590&fit=bounds]](https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/j422/LRRPF52/20201207_135258.jpg?width=590&height=590&fit=bounds)
Thats with my 17.6 Wasp profile Lilja barrel, which has a .650 thin profile under the handguard, then steps up to a .750 gas block journal, .740 fore end.
Load is 31.5gr of CFE223 under 123gr A-MAX in Lapua brass.
Here are some groups shot with my 12 6.5 Grendel using gas gun fundamentals:
![[Image: 20180727_170156_zpsurtmn8ob.jpg?width=48...fit=bounds]](https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/j422/LRRPF52/65%20Grendel%20Reloading/20180727_170156_zpsurtmn8ob.jpg?width=486&height=370&fit=bounds)
From the other 12 Grendel I built with the same type of 12 Faxon barrel from the initial group buy we did here, different shooter:
![[Image: 20190301_170115_zpsmgluejeu.jpg?width=59...fit=bounds]](https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/j422/LRRPF52/65%20Grendel%20Reloading/.highres/20190301_170115_zpsmgluejeu.jpg?width=590&height=590&fit=bounds)
Then me with the same gun:
If youre free-recoiling an AR-15 pistol, it wont group.
Same is true with my lightweight AR-15 rifles. If I free-recoil them, Ill get 1.5 - 2 groups.
When I man-up on the rifle and apply gas gun fundamentals with straight, rearward pull of the stock into my upper body, with aggressive rear bag support, I can rapid-fire ~ 1 MOA 5rd groups with the light-barreled guns, and anywhere from .3 to .6 MOA with the heavy-barreled Grendels.
Heres an example of groups I shot rapid-fire back-to-back, starting with a loose-hold/free recoil from a field position, then hunkered down using gas gun technique:
![[Image: 20201207_135258.jpg?width=590&height=590&fit=bounds]](https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/j422/LRRPF52/20201207_135258.jpg?width=590&height=590&fit=bounds)
Thats with my 17.6 Wasp profile Lilja barrel, which has a .650 thin profile under the handguard, then steps up to a .750 gas block journal, .740 fore end.
Load is 31.5gr of CFE223 under 123gr A-MAX in Lapua brass.
Here are some groups shot with my 12 6.5 Grendel using gas gun fundamentals:
![[Image: 20180727_170156_zpsurtmn8ob.jpg?width=48...fit=bounds]](https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/j422/LRRPF52/65%20Grendel%20Reloading/20180727_170156_zpsurtmn8ob.jpg?width=486&height=370&fit=bounds)
From the other 12 Grendel I built with the same type of 12 Faxon barrel from the initial group buy we did here, different shooter:
![[Image: 20190301_170115_zpsmgluejeu.jpg?width=59...fit=bounds]](https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/j422/LRRPF52/65%20Grendel%20Reloading/.highres/20190301_170115_zpsmgluejeu.jpg?width=590&height=590&fit=bounds)
Then me with the same gun:
NRA Basic, Pistol, Rifle, Shotgun, RSO
CCW, CQM, DM, Long Range Rifle Instructor
6.5 Grendel Reloading Handbooks & chamber brushes can be found here:
www.AR15buildbox.com
CCW, CQM, DM, Long Range Rifle Instructor
6.5 Grendel Reloading Handbooks & chamber brushes can be found here:
www.AR15buildbox.com
