10-04-2022, 05:58 PM
(This post was last modified: 10-04-2022, 06:52 PM by Hansel&Grendel.)
I called several ATF offices for my friend who had Covid and lost his voice. Only one that answered is NY state (not the State where my friend resides). The ATF Agent said that it's best to get a FFL Home Dealer either Type 1 or Type 7 (the latter with more options) because of the volume involved. I pointed out that it's not being done for profit, but the Agent came back to volume. Although, the ATF Agent didn't seem that sure of himself but stated that it's best to obtain a FFL to play it safe even though my friend isn't doing the builds for profit.
I see the point about Form 4473 but the end user isn't known at the time my friend acquires a stripped lower. He does do a FFL transfer with each ultimate end user. The ATF agent asked if 80% parts are used and I said that my friend only uses serialized lowers. So, a FFL is used when my friend purchases several stripped lowers at a time and then a FFL is used for each ultimate end user. No straw purchase situation involved.
This ATF publication appears to give considerable weight that a FFL is required IF profit is the motive for doing builds or for selling acquired already assembled guns. For my friend, clearly profit is not the motive because he only charges parts cost and actually puts some of his own money into each build as a means of promoting 2A. And, once again, a FFL is involved twice for each lower, as stated.
https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/guide/...s/download
Frustrating.
I see the point about Form 4473 but the end user isn't known at the time my friend acquires a stripped lower. He does do a FFL transfer with each ultimate end user. The ATF agent asked if 80% parts are used and I said that my friend only uses serialized lowers. So, a FFL is used when my friend purchases several stripped lowers at a time and then a FFL is used for each ultimate end user. No straw purchase situation involved.
This ATF publication appears to give considerable weight that a FFL is required IF profit is the motive for doing builds or for selling acquired already assembled guns. For my friend, clearly profit is not the motive because he only charges parts cost and actually puts some of his own money into each build as a means of promoting 2A. And, once again, a FFL is involved twice for each lower, as stated.
https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/guide/...s/download
Frustrating.