BluntForceTrauma Wrote:What is your barrel length? In my experience, the O-ring is not needed on 16" barrels and longer, but was needed for 100% reliability on 12s.
When SOCOM switched to the heavier profile M4A1 barrel, there was a batch of barrels that had rough-textured/small chambers that caused Failure To Extract issues.
They also had problems with the SOPMOD KAC NT4 QD suppressor increasing the cyclic rate. This led Crane to put a band-aid on the carbines at that time, which was the Crane O-Ring around the Extractor spring and insert.
For a well-timed gas system, it isnt necessary, and I remove them as a rule with all my builds if I see it present.
Ive been running my 12 Grendel suppressed almost exclusively for about 4 years, and we have a duplicate of it I built for a friend who also shoots suppressed.
I used the same 12 Group Buy Faxon barrels for these builds, with Monster bolts, and Bootleg Adjustable Gas carriers.
Hes shooting with the TBAC Ultra 7 can exclusively. Im shooting with TBAC Ultra 5.
Hes shooting 107gr SMK on 8208XBR after some initial shooting with factory 123gr ELD-M and his 123gr SMK hand loads.
Ive shot 90gr TNT, 120gr Federal OTM, 123gr American Gunner, and 123gr ELD-M. I have a 3-4 year report to do on the 12 when I get a chance.
Ill go double-check that I removed the O-Rings.
ETA: Checked my 12 Grendel and I did remove the O-Ring when I built it. Ive had zero FTExtracts so far. I think I completed the build in either 2018 or 2019, no later than 2019 for sure. Ive primarily been shooting the 12 for all of my intermediate-long range work since that time. I cheated on it twice and shot my 17.6 Lilja Grendel with the kids out in the desert, on my steel poppers at distance.
NRA Basic, Pistol, Rifle, Shotgun, RSO
CCW, CQM, DM, Long Range Rifle Instructor
6.5 Grendel Reloading Handbooks & chamber brushes can be found here:
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CCW, CQM, DM, Long Range Rifle Instructor
6.5 Grendel Reloading Handbooks & chamber brushes can be found here:
www.AR15buildbox.com
