06-26-2022, 10:58 AM
On the so-called red flag laws, this thing supposedly makes $$ available to states who pass one, I don't know if any so-called "model features" were spelled out or not. Big thing here is, these laws in general violate due process and right against unreasonable search/seizure, and guilty until proven innocent -- oops that's right the Constitution says innocent until proven guilty! Now Congress is not making any federal red flag law but bribing the States to make them.
in particular the biggest point that SCOTUS was making in the 2A and Dobbs cases, is that the Constitution is meant to be taken literally, and no Bill of Rights right is 2d class. So most red flag laws will likely be thrown out as unconstitutional-- meaning again that this bill really does nothing. The 2d point is just as important, Enumerated, limited powers. So (in Dobbs) the regulation of abortion is reserved to the States and the People, not the feds, not Congress. So any red-flag, if legal at all, is also just an individual state thing.
Since the bill is doomed to fail the libs will continue to say "this is only the beginning, we must do more!!!"
My point in all of this is, if they really want to do something that will work (and they really don't want anything to work!), then start arresting and prosecuting and incarcerating criminals... Another point I believe would help - and I don't know exact details, but if someone starts shooting up a venue they are automatically labelled a terrorist and anyone, with any means including deadly force, is authorized and allowed to stop it. There's a sheriff in S Florida that basically said if someone breaks into your home and you shoot them you are doing the county a favor, saving them money, we won't prosecute you we will applaud you.
in particular the biggest point that SCOTUS was making in the 2A and Dobbs cases, is that the Constitution is meant to be taken literally, and no Bill of Rights right is 2d class. So most red flag laws will likely be thrown out as unconstitutional-- meaning again that this bill really does nothing. The 2d point is just as important, Enumerated, limited powers. So (in Dobbs) the regulation of abortion is reserved to the States and the People, not the feds, not Congress. So any red-flag, if legal at all, is also just an individual state thing.
Since the bill is doomed to fail the libs will continue to say "this is only the beginning, we must do more!!!"
My point in all of this is, if they really want to do something that will work (and they really don't want anything to work!), then start arresting and prosecuting and incarcerating criminals... Another point I believe would help - and I don't know exact details, but if someone starts shooting up a venue they are automatically labelled a terrorist and anyone, with any means including deadly force, is authorized and allowed to stop it. There's a sheriff in S Florida that basically said if someone breaks into your home and you shoot them you are doing the county a favor, saving them money, we won't prosecute you we will applaud you.
"Down the floor, out the door, Go Brandon Go!!!!!"