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BluntForceTrauma Wrote:My take on Russia’s invasion of Ukraine:

First, I like Putin for unapologetically putting Russia first, even if he is a sneaky former KGB bastard who changed the laws to keep himself in power and is always scheming to get rich selling Russian energy and arms to the world. But I’d be happy if Biden put America first half as much as Putin puts Russia first.

Second, Ukraine is run by mafia-like oligarchs (like, oh, Romania) and is corrupt from top to bottom (like Mexico). Ukraine’s military is dysfunctional, no doubt, cuz government officials have pocketed the money.

Ukraine’s democratically-elected government was pushed out by U.S. strong-arm tactics by the Obama administration in 2014 and the current corrupt and illegitimate Zelensky regime installed. The present Ukraine government is just as illegitimate as the Biden administration. (Yes, I went there, but that’s for another topic.)

Now, as a matter of principle, it’s not right to invade a country that has not invaded you, nor was threatening to invade you, nor had any capability of invading you.

If a corrupt government of a neighboring country is justification for invasion, then the U.S. is justified invading Mexico.

So, Putin is morally unjustified to invade Ukraine.

However, now that he has, for the sake of the average Ukrainian suffering under a corrupt and illegitimate mafia-like oligarchy, I hope Russia ousts the Zelensky regime. Admittedly, there’s a slim chance that Putin’s corrupt regime will replace Zelensky with a righteous regime. (The governments of Poland and Hungary are examples of “righteous” regimes that don’t have more than the standard amount of corruption and who, generally, have the best interests of the people at heart.)

And I understand nationalist fervor when one’s country is invaded, no matter how much one suffered under corrupt and oppressive leadership. (See Russia under Stalin in WW2.)

Bottom lines:

Should the U.S. send humanitarian aid to the people of Ukraine? Yes — provided corrupt officials don't intercept aid shipments and re-sell them on the black market like they do in Haiti and Africa and everywhere else.

Should the U.S. send Javelin and Stinger missiles to Ukraine? Well, yeah … OK. We armed the Mujahedin against Russia in Afghanistan, so — grudgingly — why not?

Should the U.S. send ground troops or declare a No-Fly Zone? Hell, no! You crazy? Billionaire investor Warren Buffet says, “You can’t do good business with bad people, no matter how tempting the deal.” Similarly, I say don’t get into political entanglements with corrupt governments. Didn’t we learn this in Vietnam?

Ukraine’s Russian puppet was ousted in 2014 and sent packing to Russia, then a democratically-elected President was finally chosen by the vast majority of Ukrainians after they protested Putin’s puppet from November 2013-February 2014. They rejected the Russian Economic Union so they could move forward with EU-Ukrainian Economic Agreement. You got that part all backwards. The people genuinely overthrew Putin’s rigged election. That’s what set Putin’s false flags into motion in Donbas.

Ukraine genuinely was trying to clean up their corruption so they could get on favorable trade status with the EU. Vice President Biden told the Ukrainian President to fire Viktor Shokin, the prosecutor general, or else they wouldn’t get $1 Billion in loan guarantees from Putin’s other puppet, Comrade Obama.

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Biden was co-opted by the Soviets in the late 1960s at Syracuse University, an easy mark for his self-proclaimed problem with pedophilia. They propped up his Senate campaign in 1972 via the Council for a Livable World, which was a Soviet environmental rights front group for money-laundering and support of Soviet puppet Senators, Congressmen, University Presidents, etc.

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We can talk about the past corruption of Ukrainian Presidents, which mainly meant that they were Russian puppets who were rewarded for hurting Ukraine, but when was the last time you saw a nation with a President who:

* openly violates children and touches them inappropriately,
* brags about getting prosecutors fired for investigating the tax-evading corporation his son coincidentally happened to be employed by,
* whose son and brother act as an open bribery set of intermediaries for our enemies like China and Russia,
* who worked hard in the Senate to kill critical defense programs like the B-1A in the 1970s,
* championed the Soviet position on SALT II from 1979-forward,
* who also was one of the quartet during the Obama years talking about how the US is at fault for an “Iron River of Guns” flowing into Mexico?

10% for the big guy:

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If you study the past 900 years of history between the Kievan Rus, the Slavs, and the resulting wars between the Kievan and Muscovite princes, you will get the correct background from which to understand the relationship between Kiev and Moscow. Moscow came from Kiev under the Kievan Rus via Yuri Dolgoruki. His statue is in Moscow, which I have seen personally while living there.

Russian control over Ukraine is an imperative for Russia, since Ukraine is the underbelly to them with access to the Black Sea, where their oil/NG pipelines flow through, where vast resources of farmland, oil, minerals, naval yards, and skilled labor for the military industrial complex live.

Ukraine wanted to decouple from Russia and trade with the EU, exchanging their goods and services for Euros, not near-worthless Rubles with people who are worse to try to do financial transactions with than just about any other culture in the world. Russia couldn’t allow that to happen, so they played Obama and VP Biden to manipulate the disruption to their favor. Remember, “Tell Putin after the election I will have more flexibility?”

There is a lot of Russian propaganda being spewed all over online right now about Putin being some sort of Saint, Ukrainians deserve to be murdered because their government is historically corrupt, and Putin is somehow justified. It’s all BS.

Putin’s rule of Russia has been dictatorial, shutting down exit visas for many, arresting all his competition, shooting journalists openly in the streets (happened when I was there), and general bullying that is common among “strong Russian leaders” of the past.

Now that Putin has a friendly WH again with long-term Soviet puppets in the Biden family, he has a window of opportunity to move on Ukraine so that they don’t integrate with Europe economically. I mean, Hunter Biden was literally a business partner with the former First Lady of Moscow in her human trafficking and prostitution racket, as well as being on the board of Burisma (after he peed hot for cocaine when commissioning into the Naval Reserves at age 44, and was kicked out).

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Biden is a long-time supporter of violating the 2A, while his own train wreck son threatened the family with his handgun on a crack-induced rage, so his brother’s wife threw it in a trash can, where it was retrieved.

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So Zelenski is actually more legitimate than our own current traitor in the White House, and Ukrainians actually did something to overthrow their Putin-installed puppet, not even having any benefits from a 2A like we have. On top of that, our own WH geriatric pedophile killed out energy independence almost overnight, and opened the doors for Putin to invade Ukraine to get them back under the control of Russia, while blabbing on in front of a perplexed Congress about how Putin can’t win the hearts of the Iranian people.

Biden was supposed to whisk Zelensky out of Ukraine, which would have made the Russian invasion easier for them. This would make Biden look like he was still fighting against Putin, when in reality he has been doing the bidding of the Russians since at least 1973.
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Ukraine - by LR1955 - 02-27-2022, 11:48 PM
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Ukraine - by LR1955 - 03-02-2022, 11:22 PM
Ukraine - by Bigs28 - 03-03-2022, 12:46 AM
Ukraine - by Zeneffect - 03-03-2022, 01:21 AM
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Ukraine - by Zeneffect - 03-03-2022, 03:13 PM
Ukraine - by LR1955 - 03-03-2022, 05:12 PM
Ukraine - by BluntForceTrauma - 03-03-2022, 05:45 PM
Ukraine - by myrifle - 03-03-2022, 06:25 PM
Ukraine - by Popeye212 - 03-03-2022, 07:40 PM
Ukraine - by LRRPF52 - 03-03-2022, 07:54 PM
Ukraine - by LR1955 - 03-03-2022, 07:59 PM
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Ukraine - by montana - 03-03-2022, 10:54 PM
Ukraine - by BluntForceTrauma - 03-03-2022, 11:32 PM
Ukraine - by grayfox - 03-04-2022, 02:44 PM
Ukraine - by LRRPF52 - 03-04-2022, 05:54 PM
Ukraine - by LR1955 - 03-04-2022, 05:59 PM
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Ukraine - by BluntForceTrauma - 03-06-2022, 02:00 AM
Ukraine - by montana - 03-06-2022, 02:24 AM
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