04-28-2011, 03:14 AM
Embarrassed to admit it, but shortly after leaving active duty, sportsmans guide had a "special sale" on "US military issue contract over run counter-sniper scopes" at the time I was a tad inexperienced with the civilian market. I figured that sportsmans guide was a legit company if they say its mil-spec then it must be. Never heard of the brand before but different units/services are issued different stuff.
So I bought one... I believe it was a 4-16x but I may be remembering the magnification wrong.
Elevation turret unscrewed rather than reaching its limit when attempting to determine mechanical zero.
Focal plane was rear on the scope. So mil dots stayed the same size in any magnification so I would have had to do some extra math to do to calculate what each dot was really representing depending on what magnification I was using.
Because it was rear focal plane the 2nd reticule built for a second zero hold over will not work unless you are using the particular magnification that corresponds with that distance. Not that you need it anyway thats what the mildots and turrets are for, just clutters/obstructs the field of view. Also range finder changes size with magnification so that is non functional as well. Not that you would need it either.
I did some more research and found a GOV website that states all us contractors and what they provide. counter sniper is not one of them, that is a blatant lie. They are affiliated with OTIS who makes cleaning kits for the m4, was even issued one down range. But not for scopes!! They are also affiliated with a couple of blatant rip off companies such as CZ AMERICA, that makes CZ 75 knock offs and tries to pass them off as originals. If you go to their website and click on the link for piramid group you can see all that info for yerself.
End result I shipped it back to sportsmans guide informed them that the scope had a defective turret and it was not mil-spec as advertised. Sportsmans guide apologized, gave me my money back and I bought a millet trs 1 4-16x and havent looked back.
So I bought one... I believe it was a 4-16x but I may be remembering the magnification wrong.
Elevation turret unscrewed rather than reaching its limit when attempting to determine mechanical zero.
Focal plane was rear on the scope. So mil dots stayed the same size in any magnification so I would have had to do some extra math to do to calculate what each dot was really representing depending on what magnification I was using.
Because it was rear focal plane the 2nd reticule built for a second zero hold over will not work unless you are using the particular magnification that corresponds with that distance. Not that you need it anyway thats what the mildots and turrets are for, just clutters/obstructs the field of view. Also range finder changes size with magnification so that is non functional as well. Not that you would need it either.
I did some more research and found a GOV website that states all us contractors and what they provide. counter sniper is not one of them, that is a blatant lie. They are affiliated with OTIS who makes cleaning kits for the m4, was even issued one down range. But not for scopes!! They are also affiliated with a couple of blatant rip off companies such as CZ AMERICA, that makes CZ 75 knock offs and tries to pass them off as originals. If you go to their website and click on the link for piramid group you can see all that info for yerself.
End result I shipped it back to sportsmans guide informed them that the scope had a defective turret and it was not mil-spec as advertised. Sportsmans guide apologized, gave me my money back and I bought a millet trs 1 4-16x and havent looked back.