stanc Wrote:Unfortunately, this event fails to support "the idea that citizens are their own best defense."
None of the armed parishioners were effective, all but one drawing their weapons too late.
And the first parishioner who drew his pistol was also the first person shot by the attacker.
It was a uniformed security guard -- not a CCW citizen -- who shot and killed the attacker.
I can't imagine how, to your mind, the parishioners were at all effective, let alone "lighting fast" and "very impressive."
The first victim was so slow and casual in drawing his pistol, he was easily shot and killed by the gunman.
The murderer was stopped by a citizen with a firearm Stan, security guards are citizens. From what I counted, "there were 4 more armed parishioners" ready to engage. If no parishioners had been armed, "then this could have easily been another mass murder" played out too many times in gun free zones pushed upon us by your democrat friends you endorse. The first victim, "you criticized for a poor draw" was looking down the barrel of a shotgun" and yet continued to engage. He created precious time for the security guard, "who also drew his weapon very slowly" to be able to neutralize the shooter. I counted almost 4 seconds, "for the security guard to draw his hand gun" after he saw the shot gun. If the security guard had failed, there were others ready to engage. Yet you claim this event fails to support the idea that citizens are their own best defence???? Stan, having a detailed body guard 24/7, "like anti gun Bloomberg allows only for himself" would be the best defence. Better yet, "having the secret service protect us like anti gun Hillary Clinton has" would be the best defence. Unfortunately in the real world, "with out unicorns and care bears for us common folk" the best defence is having the right to arm our selves.