The rush to short barrel Grendels

[LRRPF52]

LRRP,
Not sure if you missed parts of my post or what happened. But I'm not shooting a SKS...I own several AR-15 rifles chambered in 7.62x39...2 that are 16" and one that's 20".

Now for the ammo...not Russian junk...my personal hand loads with Barnes TAC-X 123 with a modist. 270 G1

As you can see in the below photo, the magnetospeed is reading 2470fps...the pictured tatarget was shot at 100yds with my old NV scope which is only 3x. The 7.62x39 barrel is a 16" SS from BCA. If you want to use a 20" barrel...my 20" 7.62x39 AR-15 has a bit fast MV than the 16" pictured below.

So please stay with the facts...

A5B seems to be off his meds again...he kind of flippn' out!

To be honest LRRP not not saying a 7.62x39 AR-15 is better than the 6.5 Grendel (hell...I own 4 of them) but for the average shot on a WT deer in 90% of their normal range they are both just as dead at the end of the day...just because you feel the need to shave off 4" of barrel doesn't make it better.

I read every detail of your posts. Not sure where the ball is being dropped. An AR15 chambered in 7.62x39 is never going to be able to handle the loads that an SKS or AK will if you hand load, unless you're shooting the CMMG Mutant.

Even if I hand-load my 20" SKS with that Barnes TAC-X, it will never be able to keep up with the downrange performance of even a short 10.5" Grendel shooting factory ammo. The SKS will of course be faster at the muzzle, but because of the extremely poor BCs of the .310" bullets in that weight class, they lose energy rapidly due to their fat/short/flat-base form factor, even within the short distances.

They both will kill just fine, but you pay a rifle length/weight/bulk penalty that is always there when you are not shooting, while getting less performance and effective range.