Excellent! Stats on gun violence

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You not only could be wrong, you are wrong. While training in marksmanship and the safe use of firearms is a part of what constitutes a well regulated militia, such individual training is not the sole determining factor. If it were, the Second Militia Act of 1792 would need to have been only one sentence.

I never said it was, but like you just stated, it is a part of it.

I don't see anything whatsoever in that article which supports your notion that "well regulated" = "trained
However, it certainly agrees with what I have said. It was almost as if I was reading one of my own posts."

I quote" As noted by Jeffrey Rogers Hummel, many states experimented with various measures designed to increase the training and readiness of this militia. That is, there were efforts to make the unorganized militia moderately more "organized." Well regulated or organized.

Sure, I understand properly organized, disciplined, and trained. What I no comprendo is how your statement "Exactly and the reason well regulated involves the 2ndA" makes any sense in response to my comment that "Perhaps the unit commander would've been replaced?"

Well regulated, trained and organized is a part of the militia, which is subject to the laws and regulations set for for the un-organised militia by the states..The "Unorganized Militia" and Private Gun Ownership

As Brion McClanahan has shown, the Second Amendment ? like the First Amendment ? was never written to apply to the states themselves, but to Congress. The states were still free to regulate the ownership of weaponry in their own constitutions and by their own legislatures. Most state governments, however, elected to include provisions in their own constitutions protecting private gun ownership as an element of the state's overall militia strategy.

:confused: I did not say it negates the principle of the militia. I said that "the whole people" did not have the same meaning in the 18th Century, that it has today.

I misunderstood your point, so you are correct.

Please enlighten me. In which States are citizens still conscripted into militia service, and required to furnish their own individual weapons?
That's an evasion, not an answer.And I never said the National Guard is the militia. I said the National Guard superseded the State militia system established by the Founders.

The national guard did not supersede the militia, it is the organized militia. I never stated they have recently conscripted the un-organized militia into service, but the laws are still on the books if needed.

Experiencing short term memory loss? http://www.65grendel.com/forum/showthrea...post236329

That is quite possible, I am getting older. I forgot you had no solutions, just criticisms.

California did not then require background checks for private sales.

OK