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Excellent! Stats on gun violence
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montana Wrote:No, well regulated means trained in my opinion. I could be wrong...
You not only could be wrong, you are wrong. While training in marksmanship and the safe use of firearms is a part of what constitutes a well regulated militia, such individual training is not the sole determining factor. If it were, the Second Militia Act of 1792 would need to have been only one sentence.

montana Wrote:The 2nd A has been interpreted from every angle possible to fill what ever political motive is sought. Claiming your interpretation is fact while dismissing others is quite comical. Here is another take of the 2ndA that agrees and disagrees with both of our interpretations .https://mises.org/wire/why-we-cant-ignor...-amendment
I don't see anything whatsoever in that article which supports your notion that "well regulated" = "trained"

However, it certainly agrees with what I have said. It was almost as if I was reading one of my own posts.
Quote:The National Guard, as created by the the Militia Act, would spell the doom of the unorganized militia in the US, and serve to completely undermine the Second Amendment and its defense of decentralized military power in the US.

After 1903, the federalization of the state militias only accelerated until, as Yassky concludes, "Today's National Guard is thus a far cry from what the Founders' understood a militia to be" and the result of these changes has brought about "the disappearance of anything the Founders would have recognized as a militia."

montana Wrote:You do not understand properly organized, disciplined, and trained?
Sure, I understand properly organized, disciplined, and trained. What I no comprendo is how your statement "Exactly and the reason well regulated involves the 2ndA" makes any sense in response to my comment that "Perhaps the unit commander would've been replaced?"

montana Wrote:So we have included everybody today as equals yet that somehow negates the principle of the militia??
:confused: I did not say it negates the principle of the militia. I said that "the whole people" did not have the same meaning in the 18th Century, that it has today.

montana Wrote:
stanc Wrote:Please enlighten me. In which States are citizens still conscripted into militia service, and required to furnish their own individual weapons?
The laws are still there unless you can show me where they have ended them.
That's an evasion, not an answer.

montana Wrote:Previously answered is not an answer, it is a dodge of a question.
Experiencing short term memory loss? Wink http://www.65grendel.com/forum/showthrea...post236329

montana Wrote:California has a mandatory back ground check even for private sales. If the seller sold it without a back ground check then he committed a crime. If he did, the back ground check failed.
California did not then require background checks for private sales.
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Excellent! Stats on gun violence - by montana - 08-21-2019, 03:17 AM
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