Excellent! Stats on gun violence

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You forgot well regulated, what does that apply for Stan??

"Well regulated" applies to State militia units (not to the entire population). A militia was considered "well regulated" when it was properly organized and trained for military operations.

There was no requirement for the entire population to be organized and trained to conduct military operations, and citizens were not required to have militia training to purchase guns.

Stan, committing a felony is giving up such rights...

Illogical statement. By definition, one cannot give up an unalienable right.

Dong a criminal back ground check ceases a right from being a right??

Definitely. When government approval and authorization is required to do something, it is not a right. It is a government-granted privilege.

Some logic you have there Stan.

Right back at ya.

State militias were required to be "well regulated" (i.e., properly organized, disciplined, and trained), but citizens were not required to meet militia training standards -- or indeed any standards -- in order to buy, keep and bear arms.

Did you really just say that lol. Properly organized, disciplined, and trained??? So if you are not properly organized, disciplined, and trained then what????

What would happen if a State militia unit in the 18th Century was not properly organized, disciplined, and trained? I don't know. Perhaps the unit commander would've been replaced?

Oh that's right, you don't believe the whole people are the militia, but just the national guard.

(a) I operate on facts, not belief, and (b) you're conflating a couple of different matters, as well as making a false claim about what I said.

Fact: The "whole people" never was the militia. Even in the 18th Century, the militia was comprised only of those citizens who were expected to perform military service when called upon. Women were not expected to wage war and suppress rebellion. Neither were children. And the vast majority of black people were not even allowed to keep and bear arms. When the Bill of Rights was written, "the militia" was adult white males, not the whole people.

And I never said the National Guard is the militia. I said the National Guard superseded the State militia system established by the Founders.

Sorry Stan, but only .08% of firearms used in crimes came from private sales. https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/suficspi16.pdf Not a problem.

Certainly not a major problem, but if you're serious about preventing mass shootings, I see no logic to intentionally leaving a source for nut jobs to get a gun.

California, not Montana! By the way, who did you sell your firearm too??

I sold it to the gun shop I bought it from. They resold it to a guy, who resold it privately to the killer. Which demonstrates why, if you're going to advocate background checks, it should logically apply to private transactions as well as purchases from a store.