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[montana]

I agree with you on what you just relayed.I never meant that any caliber couldn't be used ethically. My point was more for new hunters who may get the impression that a 223 is as capable as a more powerful caliber which will penetrate and be more forgiving from a not so accurate shot placement. Almost any weapon can kill anything with a good shot placement, but as the old adage says use enough gun applies. This is why we have so many different calibers to choose from, Every one is looking for a better mouse trap and sometimes they succeed. The Grendel round is case in point, it is in my opinion the best caliber for the AR type platform . That said it wouldn't be my first choice for danger est big game hunting even though it could be used successfully by a skilled hunter. I have seen many big game animals wounded by not so skilled hunters thinking they could do more with less. Poor penetration from certain calibers like the 223 is actually quite common. With proper bullet selection,and skill it will work as good as any caliber. I have also seen very powerful calibers wound animals with poor shot placement as well, thus what I meant by hunting ethics. I wounded a deer using a 250 grain 338 Win mag when the sierra gameking bullet I used blew up and didn't penetrate. From this experience I would never recommend this bullet for hunting and probably would have a hundred people tell me how well it worked for them.This of course would be my opinion from my experience. So I apologize for my confusion on this subject matter and will try to be more clear on my subject. But I also think it is prudent to use the most humane caliber for ones shooting ability. And yes I think bow hunting is unethical if a person doesn't use proper equipment or become skilled in its practice as with a firearm. Hope this clears up my position.