11-30-2018, 01:22 PM
NightStalker Wrote:[quote=LRRPF52]I've seen Frog Lube shut down an otherwise perfectly-fine Noveske AR15 at one of my courses in the winter here in the mountains of Utah.
It literally felt like fine dust/sand like you would see in the Middle East after a dust storm or riding vehicles. There was no dust around because we were covered in snow, with snow and sleet weather.
I started to ask why the attendee had not cleaned or lubed the weapon before attending, and he insisted he did.
"What did you lube it with...sand?"
"No, Frog Lube...."
Several other people have reported similar experiences.
I also have a bit of experience with CLP, which works as designed. I think CLP got a bad rap because when we were young soldiers, we succumbed to the outhouse lawyer concept of lowest bidder, without having a clue the extent the DoD goes to when testing things. CLP works just fine, even in extreme cold.
The only use I've found for Frog Lube was on Cerakote jobs when installing gas blocks. You can use it to lube the journal so the coating doesn't get marred. It helps tight blocks slide right into place.
If I have to recalibrate the navigation system of a Clingon Star Cruiser to apply lube to a firearm, that isn't a user-friendly product, and I still doubt it will work in extreme cold where lubes really are put to test.[/
I run it on all my weapons including my issues duty weapons and it’s never let me down. I’ve used it in Germany on my weapons without issue. I think we can agree Germany is pretty cold. There’s no trick to using it just degrease the weapon
Good then apply FL. If you want to store it dry then degrease the weapon, heat a little with a hair dryer, apply FL when it cools wipe the excess off. I’ve not had any issues and without seeing the weapon or knowing how it was maintained, I’m guessing lack of maintenance no matter what the person said. The grit could also have been from the ammo, but like I said I’d have to see it.
Not trying to argue just stating my experience with it.
NS:
Not a hit on you but I just got to say that my idea of fun is not degreasing a weapon, heat with a hair dryer, let it cool, apply a lube, then wipe the excess off.
I recall trying a bunch of those high speed lubes when they were in vogue. Dry lube to wet lubes. Seemed that the more hype about a lube, the less it actually worked. The more processes a guy had to take, the more chance he wouldn't do one of them right and the lube would fail. Glad I came across a couple of gallons of CLP and even a quart of cold weather CLP. General purpose lube that works very well in all conditions and doesn't need any special sort of application.
For me, the test is shooting a lot in freezing rain and snow mix. Of all of them that guys would put on their carbines, the only ones that seemed to work were the ones a guy could squirt into the bolt carrier and bolt throughout the day and keep on shooting without malfunctions. CLP because that is what we had. WD-40 burned off way too fast. Frog lube and its clones simply never held up.
When guys ask me what to get, I say CLP. I do not know what the 'best' lube is for a gas gun. I do know that CLP is pretty forgiving in how it is applied and where, and that it will do its job under a huge variety of environmental and use conditions.
LR55