What cleaner/lube to use for new AR

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Frog Lube is good stuff I think the people having a problem are not getting the rifle clean and degreased like they are supposed too.
Before I switched to the FL I used issued CLP and had nothing but problems. I was a DS Armorer so had some liberties and switched to the FL and never looked back
Thankyou for the welcome I’m enjoying the site but I have to say the info on the Grendel is confusing and a little overwhelming.

I've seen Frog Lube shut down an otherwise perfectly-fine Noveske AR15 at one of my courses in the winter here in the mountains of Utah.

It literally felt like fine dust/sand like you would see in the Middle East after a dust storm or riding vehicles. There was no dust around because we were covered in snow, with snow and sleet weather.

I started to ask why the attendee had not cleaned or lubed the weapon before attending, and he insisted he did.

"What did you lube it with...sand?"

"No, Frog Lube...."

Several other people have reported similar experiences.

I also have a bit of experience with CLP, which works as designed. I think CLP got a bad rap because when we were young soldiers, we succumbed to the outhouse lawyer concept of lowest bidder, without having a clue the extent the DoD goes to when testing things. CLP works just fine, even in extreme cold.

The only use I've found for Frog Lube was on Cerakote jobs when installing gas blocks. You can use it to lube the journal so the coating doesn't get marred. It helps tight blocks slide right into place.

If I have to recalibrate the navigation system of a Clingon Star Cruiser to apply lube to a firearm, that isn't a user-friendly product, and I still doubt it will work in extreme cold where lubes really are put to test.