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Klem Wrote:My point is, no-one can guarantee sub MOA from their bullets without all other shooting variables being equal to or better than the task. Your bullets are only one factor in final group sizes. Others are;
  • Shooter
  • Environment (e.g. weather, wind, mirage).
  • Gun
  • Shooting platform (offhand, bipod, light rested, heavy rested).
  • Ammunition (powder, case, neck tension, PROJECTILE).

Implying your bullets will produce 0.7MOA is what I was concerned about. Especially in the context that many, if not most forum members use light-weight AR's with what is a relatively low velocity calibre. Sure, you can shoot a Grendel and still have it wobbling around in the sky by the time it gets to 1,000 (relative to larger cases and calibres), but you will never be competitive. My experience of shooting 1,000yards in F-Class competition over a number of years punctuates why we zero at 100 and not 200 or 300 or a 1,000...and that is wind. Even on a still day there is movement of the air body that the bullet is traversing. 0.7MOA at 100yds never translates to 0.7 at 1,000. Notwithstanding, as the bullet slows down its ability to buck the wind diminishes. The ability to group downrange represents the cross-sectional diameters of a blunderbuss, from tight at the breech to wider at the muzzle.

As for what MOA my guns are capable of is an assumption designed to discredit my input. A cheap shot that I will not dignify with a response. I get that you are sensitive about your revenue stream but be careful not to cross the line into ad hominem. Let's keep this discussion factual please.

"Of course provided the shooter and their equipment are up to the task."

I never stated they would turn a 2 MOA weapon into a .7 MOA weapon. Nor did I in any way elude to it.
In no way did I guarantee it, nor did I state we guarantee it. Your putting words in my mouth.
I simply said they are capable of that performance as tested by a respected member of this community.
His load at 1000 was from a 22in barrel at a low 2450 at the muzzle, at an OAL of 2.24.
The performance was also from a barrel with well over a 5000 round count and at a low velocity.
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Its apparent though that some members here are not looking for a high performance product such as ours, or Cutting Edge or Warner Tool (which are more expansive).
As well this is good to know. I certainly do not want to focus where there is no market.
By producing LFP projectiles that could be loaded to SAAMI lengths in a 118gr that perform at Grendel speeds I thought we were bringing something to the table that would help the community. I guess I was mistaken.
My apologies for wasting your time.


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