M80A1, M855A1 vs Level IV Armor
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Azgeek Wrote:"Whatever relationship existed between DoD and the 9 major body armor manufacturers seemed to come into play, because Pinnacle Armor wasn't willing to share licensing with them. This is a legitimate concern for DoD, because they are already used to working with large suppliers for critical equipment, so Pinnacle's unwillingness to license to Ceradyne, Point Blank, etc. was a major red flag. They didn't want to be left out hanging with all their eggs in one basket with Pinnacle, so a campaign to discredit the armor technology of Dragonskin was launched and successfully executed."

Dam LR55 you know your stuff! We would be required to license the technology to those in the "good old boys club". Found out that if adopted, the DoD would require multiple suppliers. Don't know that we were ever asked to share anything, but I do know that we did disclose all aspects of the technology, capabilities and patent information with Picatinny Arsenal when we met with them face-to-face in Florida a few years back. I don't think we would be open to "share" but certainly to lease (at FMV) to large manufacturers already in the supply chain.

Wasn't me. It was LRRP52 who made this statement.

I was aware of the Pinnacle incident but it was after my time and they did themselves in by first lying about their testing and then providing a item that fell apart in extreme heat. I believe it was the glue they used to hold the little plates together.

They did a good enough job discrediting themselves without the help of DoD.

As for the plates that the guys were given for Afghanistan and Iraq? I know of several guys who would have been dead if they didn't have at least the chest plate. I also know of one that was killed by a round that went between the chest and back plate. Thus causing the uproar about side armor.

Anyway, still do not know the method of defeating current body armor with small arms ammunition other than a real hard projo with a real sharp tip going real fast.

LR55
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M80A1, M855A1 vs Level IV Armor - by stanc - 01-16-2018, 03:02 AM
M80A1, M855A1 vs Level IV Armor - by VASCAR2 - 01-16-2018, 03:41 PM
M80A1, M855A1 vs Level IV Armor - by Azgeek - 01-23-2018, 05:08 AM
M80A1, M855A1 vs Level IV Armor - by LRRPF52 - 01-28-2018, 12:41 AM
M80A1, M855A1 vs Level IV Armor - by n9nwo - 01-28-2018, 06:31 AM
M80A1, M855A1 vs Level IV Armor - by Azgeek - 01-29-2018, 01:51 AM
M80A1, M855A1 vs Level IV Armor - by Tex Nomex - 01-29-2018, 02:13 AM
M80A1, M855A1 vs Level IV Armor - by Azgeek - 01-29-2018, 02:28 AM
M80A1, M855A1 vs Level IV Armor - by Azgeek - 01-29-2018, 02:34 AM
M80A1, M855A1 vs Level IV Armor - by LRRPF52 - 01-29-2018, 05:36 PM
M80A1, M855A1 vs Level IV Armor - by Azgeek - 01-30-2018, 01:03 AM
M80A1, M855A1 vs Level IV Armor - by LR1955 - 01-30-2018, 01:08 PM
M80A1, M855A1 vs Level IV Armor - by Azgeek - 01-30-2018, 04:30 PM
M80A1, M855A1 vs Level IV Armor - by Azgeek - 01-30-2018, 04:58 PM
M80A1, M855A1 vs Level IV Armor - by LRRPF52 - 01-30-2018, 05:39 PM
M80A1, M855A1 vs Level IV Armor - by stanc - 01-30-2018, 06:21 PM
M80A1, M855A1 vs Level IV Armor - by Azgeek - 01-30-2018, 06:28 PM
M80A1, M855A1 vs Level IV Armor - by Azgeek - 01-30-2018, 06:31 PM
M80A1, M855A1 vs Level IV Armor - by Azgeek - 01-30-2018, 06:37 PM
M80A1, M855A1 vs Level IV Armor - by Azgeek - 01-30-2018, 06:58 PM
M80A1, M855A1 vs Level IV Armor - by stanc - 01-30-2018, 09:04 PM
M80A1, M855A1 vs Level IV Armor - by stanc - 01-30-2018, 09:09 PM
M80A1, M855A1 vs Level IV Armor - by Azgeek - 01-30-2018, 10:08 PM
M80A1, M855A1 vs Level IV Armor - by LR1955 - 01-30-2018, 10:25 PM
M80A1, M855A1 vs Level IV Armor - by Azgeek - 01-30-2018, 10:37 PM
M80A1, M855A1 vs Level IV Armor - by stanc - 01-31-2018, 12:19 AM
M80A1, M855A1 vs Level IV Armor - by Azgeek - 01-31-2018, 12:41 AM
M80A1, M855A1 vs Level IV Armor - by stanc - 01-31-2018, 02:22 AM
M80A1, M855A1 vs Level IV Armor - by Tex Nomex - 01-31-2018, 03:08 AM
M80A1, M855A1 vs Level IV Armor - by Azgeek - 01-31-2018, 03:33 AM
M80A1, M855A1 vs Level IV Armor - by Azgeek - 01-31-2018, 04:13 AM
M80A1, M855A1 vs Level IV Armor - by stanc - 01-31-2018, 07:13 AM

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