What if the AR15 had not been created?
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pinzgauer Wrote:The Stoner genius was that he designed a rifle that can be assembled into a reliable, light, strong performing rifle with zero hand fitting. Out of a box of random parts. And is comparatively accurate out of the box. And has a minimal parts count.
Sorry, but all that is just top notch engineering, in my book. Plus, considering that almost everything about Stoner's design had been done before, I find it difficult to classify it as genius.

- Straight-line stock
- Buffer tube
- Pistol grip
- Bolt carrier
- Multi-lug rotating bolt
- Direct impingement gas system
- Hinged upper and lower receivers
- Plastic furniture

All of these were used in weapons that preceded the AR.
Quote:With great ergonomics.
Honestly, I don't see what's so great about AR ergonomics.

The original charging handle could be grasped by only one finger. The standard T-handle isn't much better, and is located where leverage is poor. On many other designs, the charging handle is large enough to be grabbed with the palm, not just a finger or two, and usually located where leverage is greater.

And insofar as balance and handling are concerned, I rate this as superior:
[video=youtube;N06ySsT2EKU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N06ySsT2EKU[/video]
Quote:That is easy for untrained people to shoot to military standards.
Ya mean, like this? Wink
[video=youtube;ltsYULIT9I4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltsYULIT9I4[/video]
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What if the AR15 had not been created? - by stanc - 11-23-2011, 02:48 AM
What if the AR15 had not been created? - by stanc - 11-24-2011, 04:58 AM
What if the AR15 had not been created? - by LRRPF52 - 11-24-2011, 05:58 AM
What if the AR15 had not been created? - by stanc - 11-24-2011, 08:43 AM
What if the AR15 had not been created? - by stanc - 11-24-2011, 08:00 PM
What if the AR15 had not been created? - by LRRPF52 - 11-24-2011, 08:10 PM
What if the AR15 had not been created? - by ofreen - 11-28-2011, 07:37 PM
What if the AR15 had not been created? - by stanc - 11-28-2011, 08:30 PM
What if the AR15 had not been created? - by ofreen - 11-28-2011, 09:56 PM
What if the AR15 had not been created? - by stanc - 11-29-2011, 06:16 AM
What if the AR15 had not been created? - by ofreen - 11-29-2011, 08:29 AM
What if the AR15 had not been created? - by LRRPF52 - 12-10-2011, 07:12 AM
What if the AR15 had not been created? - by stanc - 12-16-2011, 11:02 PM
What if the AR15 had not been created? - by LRRPF52 - 12-17-2011, 04:52 AM
What if the AR15 had not been created? - by stanc - 12-17-2011, 05:55 AM
What if the AR15 had not been created? - by stanc - 12-17-2011, 06:30 AM
What if the AR15 had not been created? - by LRRPF52 - 12-17-2011, 07:18 AM
What if the AR15 had not been created? - by stanc - 12-17-2011, 09:51 AM
What if the AR15 had not been created? - by LRRPF52 - 12-31-2011, 07:17 AM
What if the AR15 had not been created? - by LRRPF52 - 11-24-2011, 07:18 PM

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