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The Threat is Real, very real.
HowaGrendel Wrote:Iron sights useless at night ? lol........hardly, and it is not like you could not move to a better vantage point to see.....In almost any shooting the LEO's have to move to get an advantage to be able to stop a shooter.....
I have used iron sights at night on many occasions. The ONLY time that were useful was when the target was well lit.

Also, if the police were able to SEE where the shots were coming from, they should have known that THIRTY TWO floors is more than 100 yards up. Add to that the needed horizontal separation doubling the minimum range where one could see into the room and the result is that he was firing from well outside the range where a beat cop could do anything other than suppressing fire. That would have ut civilians and law enforcement in serious danger.

The only way law enforcement could get a better firing position was the one they chose -- enter the building and "knock" on the door.

The amazing thing is they did this within 15 or 21 minutes from the first shots being taken. I know that seemed like forever to some but was truly a lightning fast response.

The Las Vegas Police department needs to be congratulated for having the training and policy that allowed their officers to respond so quickly and effectively.
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