Results of Sep 12th SHARE Act Legislative Hearing (Included HPA)

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I said we used double ears in training, while that old video is operational.

Operational use is what I was addressing.

Centrefire suppressed, including handguns is 'loud'.

Not in my experience. And the video I posted also showed that to be untrue; if there's anyplace where a suppressed 9mm would seem loud, it'd be in a confined space like an underground bunker.

Standing around with the cops and firing into the air is a nice touch of machismo but you need to have more respect for the fragile nature of hearing. It's all relative to cartridge, barrel length and type of suppressor.

So you completely ignored the fact that I told you the shot was so quiet only the sound of the firing pin impacting the primer was audible???

A little .22 rimfire is nice and quiet and no ears needed. Subsonic, suppressed Blackout from a 12" barrel is getting towards needing ears, especially when under roofs and in rooms. A few shots in the open is no big deal. Suppressed Grendel is definitely earmuff time. You might only shoot one or two rounds occasionally in the open and put up with accumulating damage that might not be noticed until you are old and grey.

Meh. I've seen no evidence that civilian use of suppressors -- which is what the HPA is concerned with -- is routinely done while wearing ear plugs or muffs. As best I can tell, the vast majority of civilians who use suppressors, don't wear hearing protection, especially when hunting or other "operational" use. Do you have any evidence to the contrary?

As for countries that regulate firearms more the USA, perhaps that is the reason why suppressors don't feature to a concerning degree in their crime, or perhaps it's more related to cultural propensity to commit crime and to use firearms in crime.

Concur.

One example of a country that has ready access to military centre-fire rifles is Switzerland where crime with these guns, let alone with suppressors, is almost non-existent.

Don't purchasers of suppressors in Switzerland have to go through an approval process similar to NFA purchases in the US?

Across the world it is also relatively easy to manufacture a DIY suppressor if you cannot get your hands on a legitimately manufactured one, yet their use in all countries to commit crime is rare.

LOL. Most criminals are not DIY-type people who have the interest or ability to manufacture their own suppressors. I think the most likely reason suppressors are rarely used in crime is simply that they add so much bulk to the gun that concealed carry becomes impractical.

Cars are important to society and if you couch suppressors similarly, as more than just an indulgence (e.g. mitigating hearing loss and noise pollution) then suddenly there is a community benefit opposing their restriction.

The trouble with that notion is that suppressors are an indulgence. Cars are necessary to our society; suppressors are not.

Now understand, I'm not arguing against the HPA. I hope it passes. I just consider ideas like "reducing noise pollution" as silly ploys which any thinking person would easily see as nonsense.