04-02-2017, 02:20 AM
Whatever you do, I would not buy Frog Lube. When I had someone bring it to one of my courses, it seized up a Noveske AR15 that had run 100% before then.
It felt like someone had poured fine sand inside of the rifle, and we were in pretty cold conditions with no sand in sight, still on the flat ranges with cement floors.
In the cold, that lube became very gritty for some reason. I have seen other organic oils behave the same way during thermal shift from liquid to solid, then back to liquid. You end up with a nice thick oil, and some residual grit or crystals, like with coconut oil.
What I do recommend is Slip2000, or motor oil. Even regular CLP works well actually, after years of being trashed on by everyone selling their new wonder oil.
Biggest things with a new AR15 are that you have a rough-textured, hard-anodized aluminum with pretty rough-textured phosphated Bolt Carrier rails grinding against it.
Additionally, you have hard-anodized charge handles grating against the hard-anodized internal path of the upper receiver.
I find that the thick oils do very well with buffering these articulating surfaces.
Another thing about parts: All parts are not created equal and most ignore the real Mil-Spec and Mil-Std, which is to apply a bake-on dry film lubricant to the magazines, inside of the lower receiver extension tube (RET), and the inside of the upper receiver, leaving a dull gray appearance. This dry film lube inside the upper helps suspend lubricant so that it lasts longer and sustains an optimum coefficient of friction with the bolt carrier rails.
The Military and Geissele are actually working on a deposition coating that will make the parts not need lubricant, and it appears to actually work, even in the wake of the less-than-optimal performance of other coatings that were touted as such before, like NiB. Geissele had some rifles at SHOT with this coating, and they are in deep with SOCOM, USMC, and other units as to specific end-user requests that actually meet and exceed the user requirements.
It felt like someone had poured fine sand inside of the rifle, and we were in pretty cold conditions with no sand in sight, still on the flat ranges with cement floors.
In the cold, that lube became very gritty for some reason. I have seen other organic oils behave the same way during thermal shift from liquid to solid, then back to liquid. You end up with a nice thick oil, and some residual grit or crystals, like with coconut oil.
What I do recommend is Slip2000, or motor oil. Even regular CLP works well actually, after years of being trashed on by everyone selling their new wonder oil.
Biggest things with a new AR15 are that you have a rough-textured, hard-anodized aluminum with pretty rough-textured phosphated Bolt Carrier rails grinding against it.
Additionally, you have hard-anodized charge handles grating against the hard-anodized internal path of the upper receiver.
I find that the thick oils do very well with buffering these articulating surfaces.
Another thing about parts: All parts are not created equal and most ignore the real Mil-Spec and Mil-Std, which is to apply a bake-on dry film lubricant to the magazines, inside of the lower receiver extension tube (RET), and the inside of the upper receiver, leaving a dull gray appearance. This dry film lube inside the upper helps suspend lubricant so that it lasts longer and sustains an optimum coefficient of friction with the bolt carrier rails.
The Military and Geissele are actually working on a deposition coating that will make the parts not need lubricant, and it appears to actually work, even in the wake of the less-than-optimal performance of other coatings that were touted as such before, like NiB. Geissele had some rifles at SHOT with this coating, and they are in deep with SOCOM, USMC, and other units as to specific end-user requests that actually meet and exceed the user requirements.
NRA Basic, Pistol, Rifle, Shotgun, RSO
CCW, CQM, DM, Long Range Rifle Instructor
6.5 Grendel Reloading Handbooks & chamber brushes can be found here:
www.AR15buildbox.com
CCW, CQM, DM, Long Range Rifle Instructor
6.5 Grendel Reloading Handbooks & chamber brushes can be found here:
www.AR15buildbox.com