11-15-2011, 09:17 PM
sgt_murf Wrote:BTW I am one of those Careerist NCO with over 30 years
If the shoe fits, wear it!
I don't believe you. You can spell and formulate sentences..,oh wait, I spoke too early. I believe you now. What's the maximum detection range of a SGM's eye-sight on a cigarette butt? 30 years...thanks for your sacrifice. That many years surely saw some injuries, and years tacked-on to the human body by a factor of at least 2 per every year as a civilian.I think about the challenges that distance plays in the Afghan AOR for riflemen, who are still fighting as a combined arms team, and it seems to me that there is more call for a new caliber stateside than in-theater. I can see a rifleman that might want to take a shot across some orchards into a mud hut village in a quickly-developing engagement, with insurgents using RPG's, PKM's, and SVD's.
It would suck not being able to make an effective shot if I was one of the lead team in contact riflemen, as I waited for a SAW gunner trying to get that beast forward under fire. The 77gr Mk262 would be more-preferred in that situation, but would the soldier be able to place it 1st-round, from an expedient position, under-fire?
What I gather from the guys who want a different caliber is that they love the weight of the M4, but would like 7.62 performance on-call in those specific scenarios where distance and barriers are to be addressed. This seems like a custom-fit for the Grendel, and it wouldn't hurt my feelings in that AOR if I had one, but I can also hump 220 rounds of 7.62 in 20rd mags, with armor, although it does suck bigtime.
A 5'4" Joe Tentpeg raised on MW and XBOX can't hump a decent load of 7.62, but he can barely pull a load of 5.56. The 62gr M855 about 2/3 the weight of a 123gr Grendel load. If we reduce the projectile weight, we fight the benefits of retained energy and increased BC.
I'm still not going to rest on comments about the Grendel being unable to track well in a CQM perspective, since I need to test mine out with some rapid strings from a standing position still. I was impressed with the 100gr NBT performance, regarding basically no real recoil and muzzle climb, but that BC is much lower than a 123gr SMK or Scenar. It probably would make a great 400-500m military round, but how much more than M855 for the weight and reduced load, with increased profile of a soldier in the prone with a 30rd Grendel mag...
