02-06-2017, 05:31 PM
Klem Wrote:I would be careful implying you are more experienced than 'inexperienced shooters'. You are now immortalised at the range complex I attend.
Against my better judgement I decided to try the Rick's Hands-Off technique today, if only to prove you wrong. I used a 16" Recon Rifle in 5.56. I followed the 'best ever group' technique on this thread and let rip with a 5 round full-auto burst. It attracted some attention from others nearby. Where I shoot full-auto from an assault rifle is considered undisciplined and wasteful. Even more curious from a rifle with no select fire (Giessele SSA-E). One more 4 round burst to confirm it was bump firing and by then I had a small crowd around me giving me sh*t.
After the explanation the jokes started. Ricks 'Best Group' Technique and the 'Rick Technique'. If you are self deprecating it wouldn't be so bad but I'm guessing probably not.
To the rest of the Forum, if you want a cheap, dangerous thrill then follow Rick's advice on this thread.
Rick, I notice you like giving advice but have yet to ask for it. Please dial it back. More listening and less talking. Buy a 6.5 Grendel in an AR15 chassis and spend some time getting used to it. Experts like 55 and 52 are happy to help with any questions you might have.
Klem:
How can you bump fire using a free recoil technique? The rifle is moving away from the trigger finger to the extent the trigger guard or stock allows. Or did the free recoil actuate the sear?
I don't mess around if I have to load test with a semi auto blaster. No matter if it weighs fifteen pounds or six pounds. I use a pretty solid hold in a pretty solid position. My theory is that if the rifle or carbine is held firmly enough, it will go back into position quickly and can take a trigger pull problem without moving the blaster. From a bench or prone using bags, I normally put a lot of pressure down on the stock and will pull it into my shoulder as needed to settle out any movement I see through the optic. Isometric hold, not a lot of muscular input. For the bench I will spend my time setting up my position so I fit into it and thus can use isometric tension to my advantage. Biggest problems I have had normally involve benches that are not solid enough or are not cut to fit a shooter, and stools that are not adjustable. The latter is easily fixed by buying a stool that one can adjust.
I have tried the free recoil thing Rick describes using some pretty heavy prone match rifles. Had a hard time calling my shots and never really got performance for some reason. So I end up testing my prone rifles from the prone in a sling, normally using an optic. I have tested loads using the irons too but the optic lets me call my shots with more precision. Have always trusted my shooting and calls more with these prone rifles when shooting in position, with sling, from the prone.
Kind of strange to me too that I am perfectly comfortable blasting with a gas gun off a solid bench. Can call my shots well and am highly confident in my position and technique. Not so with a bolt gun. Need to put on a jacket, sling, mitt, etc and go prone. I will shoot a bolt gun prone using a bipod if I must but would not trust it to test loads. Must just be years of shooting with a sling.
Have doubled with gas guns. Never fired a five shot string that way though. Cool.
LR55