PDWs...and other small arms.

[LR1955]

Yeah, that can sure be seen in these videos. One soldier described it as like being hit with a sledgehammer.

[video=youtube;JxeP9SjJt68]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxeP9SjJt68[/video]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxeP9SjJt68

[video=youtube;tMMSA3opBk4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMMSA3opBk4[/video]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMMSA3opBk4



LOL. Now you're just being mean.

But seriously, if it should be deemed necessary for small arms to be able to defeat modern hard armor, it looks to me like the only way to possibly achieve that is to go the route that the Russians started down three decades ago: Intermediate caliber, ultra-high velocity.

Developed for machine gun and sniper rifle, the 6x49 Unified (below, center) had a 77-gr steel-core bullet @ nearly 3800 fps.

Stan:

Once again you come through. Living lexicon of small arms and ammunition. I could look on the internet for days and not find this.

I can imagine that this 6 X 49 Russkie cartridge could go through our ceramic body armor.

Must be ten years ago when one of our guys got hold of a new chest plate that we shot with various NATO cartridges. The one that penetrated the most was M-855. Then M-118 Special Ball. Neither went through but both dimpled the back side of the plate. The 855 more so than the 118. I still have the plate somewhere.

And what you have continually demonstrated the entire time on this forum is that every practical combination of bullet and cartridge probably has already been developed and tested. The ones that worked the best were the ones that became issued. Most likely that Russian 6 mm went through about everything but went through barrels faster so it wasn't put into production.

Thats why I get a kick out of guys who come on screaming about how much better a 6.5 Grendel is than X, Y or Z cartridge or combination of bullet and cartridge. I am sure a Grendel could be selected to replace the issued 5.56, providing the Grendel met what ever requirements were developed by DoD and did so by a great enough margin to warrant the billions it would cost. Same with that Russian 6 X 49. Or anything else for that matter.

LR55