Having a Vision

[LR1955]

55,

Thank you for replying.

In answer to your question I believe I made myself clear in earlier posts. If someone wants to valorize Arnold as a role model then be prepared for others who will disagree. I outlined Arnold's failings and my criteria for a role model. It may a different opinion to others and if anyone takes umbrage at that then it is not my intention to upset people, merely having a discussion.

In clarification to your posts concerning me. We both know I did not say Arnold was a 'scumbag'; a personal insult. I believe you are using the term to imply my position lacks credibility. I do however believe he is a narcissist who has focussed his 'can do' attitude on achieving self-indulgent goals. Also, that many of his achievements have come at the expense of others.

I forgive you for the slight where you made reference to Stan. It does not dignify a response.

Yes, I believe that a persons exploits tarnish any mental skills they lay claim to. As I said, unless we can completely separate any proprietary ownership of these mental skills from the person then it is difficult not to consider the person along with the skills.

I was not aware Arnold possessed any particular skillset other than the generic few steps I read some years ago in his biography and listed in an earlier post. I think we all know that Arnold is not a Marksman. I am also unaware that shooters use his skillset, or a skillset that Arnold also happens to use. I believe those steps he uses to achieve his goals have limited merit for shooters. What I do think would benefit shooters is possessing his drive, albeit focussed on achieving shooting outcomes.

Please note, I had the courtesy to answer your question and now invite you to do the same (previous post). Can you live with a poster having a different opinion to a moderator?

Klem:

Of course I can live with a poster disagreeing with me. As long as the poster doesn't start attacking me personally -- which is also the norm when I have to intervene in a thread. Have seen it happen to Bill and LRRP52 as well.

As for the skill sets that LRRP52 commented on. Goals setting, imagery, self talk are the three that are probably most used by athletes in any sport. All three work quite well with marksmanship. What LRRP52 didn't mention and maybe Arnold didn't use is relaxation and centering techniques -- stress management skills. Those are pretty important for anyone competing in a sport and I have found them particularly important with sports that require fine motor skills or very fast movement.

LR55