11-14-2015, 01:12 PM
VASCAR2 Wrote:How were you going to evaluate the two FMJ, Stan. Accuracy at various combat ranges , barrier penetration, gel test, weight/size of cartridges (combat load), reliability, recoil/controllability, full auto control? Inquiring minds want to know! I'd sure be interested in seeing this evaluation, especially if the test involved 6.5/6.8 FMJ versus 5.56 55 grain/M-193, FMJ/62 grain M855, 77 grain SMK and 7.62X 51 147 grain FMJ. I wouldn't even object to throwing in 30 caliber 168 grain match or 7.62 X39 - 5.45 X 39 FMJ.
Sounds like something Luckygunner would do.
VC2:
It is probably almost impossible for Stan to do much more than read and type on a computer.
When we talked about such a test years ago it mostly dealt with terminal ballistics. At least that is the subject we discussed the most because of the difficulty in defining such things as barrier penetration then terminal effects on human tissue.
We also talked about combat distances so the test would be as focused as possible. I still contend that 95 percent of all engagements are under 300 meters and although guys may shoot at each other past 500 meters, they are relying on luck more than training to inflict a casualty.
We talked about shooting through cinder blocks, built up gallon milk jugs of water, auto glass, and various types of compounds that simulated human tissue. One was a tube of ballistic jel that you shot into and then cut down the middle to see wound cavities.
We also talked about the carbines and sighting systems that best replicated service grade. No match triggers, match grade and floated barrels.
It was a great discussion with the only thing missing being a ball round for the Grendel.
Aside from a FMJ Grendel round, the cost was pretty prohibitive.
Anyway, no real interest anymore. At least not from the funding stand point.
LR1955