02-07-2015, 03:30 AM
NugginFutz Wrote:Sorry you're feeling that way, smokinghole. My experience has been quite the opposite. There is no cash register at the end of the line, and nobody here is on commission. There are many of the horde who don't even own a SAAMI grendel, including yours truly. I've been made to feel nothing but welcome, and that has nothing to do with my choice of chambering. There have been a few who have tried to make hay out of some genuine concerns for people's safety, but I have yet to see any genuine elitism. (Pride in product? Yes. Snobbery? No.)
Having said that, there are a variety of opinions here, same as anywhere. Some believe the compound throat is better, whereas others prefer the conventional throat. Ultimately, though, the Ford v. Chevy stuff ends when someone has a need or is looking for technical help. I've never once seen someone stop trying to help if they discovered an "infidel", nor have I seen anyone being told their rifle was crap.
If I had any advice at all, I'd suggest pm'ing whoever is giving you that impression and clearing the air. You might be surprised how nice the people around here can be.
+1 on this smokinghole. I have received nothing but great guidance and advice from the members here. I have a Lilja group buy barrel just like you got, only I got mine from a group buyer. The guy went and got a replacement barrel and sold me his non spec barrel. He shot great groups with it. I haven't shot my build yet, but I am expecting great results. Several others on this forum have reported super range reports with their 264LBC Lilja barrels and I don't recall anybody being shunned or criticized. I also have a Precision Firearms Neptune V upper with a Bartlein barrel. As one would expect it shoots great. I also have a Liberty group buy barrel that I expected to be a SAAMI Grendel but would jam factory 123 Amax and SST ammo into the lands. It was returned for scraping. I am sure you have heard/read the history of that fiasco and the hard feelings and opinions that adventure created. The big issue there for me was the buyers not receiving what they felt they bought, and the lack of satisfactory answers. Yet many of those barrels shoot like a bargain barrels should. You were warned in another Forum not to drink this cult's Kool-Aid. So read, ask questions, learn, think for yourself, decide for yourself, be happy, and don't drink their beverage either.

