01-27-2015, 03:34 AM
LRRPF52, thanks for posting. I share your bewilderment when something that was supposed to be inspirational caused unintentional offense to some. I wish those offended had simply smirked and moved on. If a technical topic is of no interest to me, for example, I glance at it and move on. I wish some had treated this the same.
I think Drift had it right that in that we have become a community of sorts and, believe it or not, sometimes we want to talk about something other than the 6.5 Grendel. We have no General Discussion area— purposefully, to avoid the membership dividing themselves into warring factions as so often happens — but we do allow a little latitude here and there with the understanding that we will soon get back to the OP's main topic. If we get too far into the weeds and just cannot seem to find our way back, we lock the thread. Not a perfect system, but it's worked so far.
Bwaites, thank you for your measured response. I think your handling was patient and fair.
Nukes, I've tried to explain that we allow some political discussion as a small concession, but that doesn't mean that it's rank hypocrisy that we suddenly don't allow a total free-for-all. I'm sorry that the approach is nuanced, but, again, we try to make it work. I will even allow that for long-time members we even give a little more latitude than might be considered strictly fair, but I hope you understand that they sort of "earn" that kind of thing.
Klem, I thank you for trying very hard to keep your responses civil though it's clear you very much disagree. I like to think we're quite tolerant here of civil debate, no matter the diverging opinions. I do, however, think it might have been better if you had just smiled with bemusement and let those crazy Americans have their little "moment" without feeling like you needed to walk up to them, tap them on the shoulder, and begin lecturing them. Jumping in as you did was just bad form, in my opinion, sort of like telling dirty jokes at a funeral to the widow. Not the biggest sin, just bad manners.
Carry on. My hope is that we won't need to lock this, but that all the men here can continue to respectfully contribute while exhibiting good manners.
I think Drift had it right that in that we have become a community of sorts and, believe it or not, sometimes we want to talk about something other than the 6.5 Grendel. We have no General Discussion area— purposefully, to avoid the membership dividing themselves into warring factions as so often happens — but we do allow a little latitude here and there with the understanding that we will soon get back to the OP's main topic. If we get too far into the weeds and just cannot seem to find our way back, we lock the thread. Not a perfect system, but it's worked so far.
Bwaites, thank you for your measured response. I think your handling was patient and fair.
Nukes, I've tried to explain that we allow some political discussion as a small concession, but that doesn't mean that it's rank hypocrisy that we suddenly don't allow a total free-for-all. I'm sorry that the approach is nuanced, but, again, we try to make it work. I will even allow that for long-time members we even give a little more latitude than might be considered strictly fair, but I hope you understand that they sort of "earn" that kind of thing.
Klem, I thank you for trying very hard to keep your responses civil though it's clear you very much disagree. I like to think we're quite tolerant here of civil debate, no matter the diverging opinions. I do, however, think it might have been better if you had just smiled with bemusement and let those crazy Americans have their little "moment" without feeling like you needed to walk up to them, tap them on the shoulder, and begin lecturing them. Jumping in as you did was just bad form, in my opinion, sort of like telling dirty jokes at a funeral to the widow. Not the biggest sin, just bad manners.
Carry on. My hope is that we won't need to lock this, but that all the men here can continue to respectfully contribute while exhibiting good manners.