01-26-2015, 01:08 PM
It may not have started 2A, but it is there now. As for my being a moderator, I was a member long before I was a moderator. I still retain my rights to express my opinion and and to express truth. IF I or any moderator were required to waive those rights, there would be no moderators, for in and of itself that implies censorship.
There was no religion expressed in my post, only a simple explanation of the Founding Fathers beliefs in Christianity, or, if you wish, Judeo-Christianity. Religion in this context is not a simple belief in God, but a value set and customs associated with that belief. It is man made, and the Founding Fathers had multiple different religious backgrounds, including Methodism, Lutheranism, Catholic, Huguenot, Congregationalist, Episcopalian/Anglican, Presbyterian, Calvinist, Unitarian, and Quakers, as well as Dutch/German Reformed. I find it interesting that someone with no belief in God is so offended by others belief in a Supreme Being. No one is implying or requiring that you should so believe.
Sorry if you don't share my beliefs about the greatest nation in history, but no other nation in history has spent so much blood for the lives and freedoms of people in other countries, and asked so little in return. Indeed, all America has asked for the lives of our fallen is a place to bury them in the countries where they have fallen.
Once again, you are not required to visit the 2A forum to be a good member of the Grendel Forum, it was established at the request of many members to allow a place for discussion of 2A issues, and since they don't pertain in your situation, there really isn't any need for you to visit here. You are welcome to do so, but with the understanding that this section will be, obviously, "ethnocentric" though the word does not mean what you think it means. There is no such thing as applied to United States citizens as a group, simply because we are so multi-ethnic! We have a dominant language, English, and even that is changing, but when it comes to any other divider; race, religion, culture, or custom we are widely divergent. Calling US citizens ethnocentric is laughable. If you are referring to our patriotic bent, regardless of ethnic background, it is that patriotic bent that has allowed the US to defend freedom from "halls of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli" as one of our military hymns so proudly claims! Please do not interpret that as a belief that the US has always been right in its interventions, for we are a nation led by men with various egos and rationales, not all of which have been pure at times. The US has made mistakes, but has tried to correct those mistakes where possible, eventually.
So, once again, I invite you to remain in the "technical" areas of the forum, avoiding those areas that might offend your sensibilities.
There was no religion expressed in my post, only a simple explanation of the Founding Fathers beliefs in Christianity, or, if you wish, Judeo-Christianity. Religion in this context is not a simple belief in God, but a value set and customs associated with that belief. It is man made, and the Founding Fathers had multiple different religious backgrounds, including Methodism, Lutheranism, Catholic, Huguenot, Congregationalist, Episcopalian/Anglican, Presbyterian, Calvinist, Unitarian, and Quakers, as well as Dutch/German Reformed. I find it interesting that someone with no belief in God is so offended by others belief in a Supreme Being. No one is implying or requiring that you should so believe.
Sorry if you don't share my beliefs about the greatest nation in history, but no other nation in history has spent so much blood for the lives and freedoms of people in other countries, and asked so little in return. Indeed, all America has asked for the lives of our fallen is a place to bury them in the countries where they have fallen.
Once again, you are not required to visit the 2A forum to be a good member of the Grendel Forum, it was established at the request of many members to allow a place for discussion of 2A issues, and since they don't pertain in your situation, there really isn't any need for you to visit here. You are welcome to do so, but with the understanding that this section will be, obviously, "ethnocentric" though the word does not mean what you think it means. There is no such thing as applied to United States citizens as a group, simply because we are so multi-ethnic! We have a dominant language, English, and even that is changing, but when it comes to any other divider; race, religion, culture, or custom we are widely divergent. Calling US citizens ethnocentric is laughable. If you are referring to our patriotic bent, regardless of ethnic background, it is that patriotic bent that has allowed the US to defend freedom from "halls of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli" as one of our military hymns so proudly claims! Please do not interpret that as a belief that the US has always been right in its interventions, for we are a nation led by men with various egos and rationales, not all of which have been pure at times. The US has made mistakes, but has tried to correct those mistakes where possible, eventually.
So, once again, I invite you to remain in the "technical" areas of the forum, avoiding those areas that might offend your sensibilities.
You seek escape from pain. We seek the achievement of happiness. You exist for the sake of avoiding punishment. We exist for the sake of earning rewards. Threats will not make us function; fear is not our incentive. It is not death that we wish to avoid, but life that we wish to live. - John Galt