Here's a related story about members of Oath Keepers in Ferguson, MO. http://www.alloutdoor.com/2014/12/03/gua...-ferguson/
Here's a quote from that story about justification for the use of lethal force in MO.:
“Well, in Missouri you’re allowed to use lethal force for three reasons; to prevent a murder, to prevent a sexual assault or a rape, or to prevent an arson – and a lot of people get confused about that last one, arson. It’s not about protecting the building with arson, it’s about protecting the people inside the building, and we just happen to have apartments… on the second floor with people sleeping inside.”
I admire what these men are doing. This is the true spirit of the Minute Man, not the National Guard who's allegiance is ultimately to the government and not his neighbor. These men are really putting themselves at risk, not just physically but legally. Knowledge of the law and an appropriate response to the chaotic behavior you could be confronted with in a riot is key to keeping yourself out of legal trouble. And even if you don't do anything wrong you might still be forced to defend yourself from a frivolous lawsuit or trumped up charge of wrong doing from a less than grateful government.
I got a kick out of this quote :
"When asked why Belmar told him to vacate, Andrews replied, “They claim that they had a St. Louis County ordinance that prevented anyone from securing a building or conducting a security operation without a St. Louis County license.”
We have a statue in Oregon that all security companies must be licensed and all security officers must be trained and licensed. Security duties are, of course, defined pretty broadly. You can not provide security except for your own property. It doesn't matter if someone is compensated or volunteers; its the activity that's regulated. So in theory what the Oath Keepers are doing in Missouri would be a violation of the law in Oregon. Insanity, no?
Here's a quote from that story about justification for the use of lethal force in MO.:
“Well, in Missouri you’re allowed to use lethal force for three reasons; to prevent a murder, to prevent a sexual assault or a rape, or to prevent an arson – and a lot of people get confused about that last one, arson. It’s not about protecting the building with arson, it’s about protecting the people inside the building, and we just happen to have apartments… on the second floor with people sleeping inside.”
I admire what these men are doing. This is the true spirit of the Minute Man, not the National Guard who's allegiance is ultimately to the government and not his neighbor. These men are really putting themselves at risk, not just physically but legally. Knowledge of the law and an appropriate response to the chaotic behavior you could be confronted with in a riot is key to keeping yourself out of legal trouble. And even if you don't do anything wrong you might still be forced to defend yourself from a frivolous lawsuit or trumped up charge of wrong doing from a less than grateful government.
I got a kick out of this quote :
"When asked why Belmar told him to vacate, Andrews replied, “They claim that they had a St. Louis County ordinance that prevented anyone from securing a building or conducting a security operation without a St. Louis County license.”
We have a statue in Oregon that all security companies must be licensed and all security officers must be trained and licensed. Security duties are, of course, defined pretty broadly. You can not provide security except for your own property. It doesn't matter if someone is compensated or volunteers; its the activity that's regulated. So in theory what the Oath Keepers are doing in Missouri would be a violation of the law in Oregon. Insanity, no?
Paul Peloquin
Did government credibility die of Covid or with Covid?
Did government credibility die of Covid or with Covid?