2A Armament BALIOS-Lite Upper

[burkew23]

Has anyone here had any experience with a 2A Armament BALIOS-Lite Upper? The specs look great with 5.85 oz stripped. I haven't been able to find much on reviews, it looks like they are a brand new company from what I've been able to find on ar15.com.

http://www.hawktecharms.com/2A-Armament-...u556-2.htm

Would it be a concern having a lightweight upper with thin walls for the Grendel?

[Walter]

If it were me I would get the lite version from Precision Firearm. Marks machining is the best. His parts look very nice all so. About the same price.

[Variable]

I recently stumbled over the Balios upper and lower receivers on Arf also. They look pretty interesting. I'm put off a bit by the price, but I have been pondering them for a future light weight build. I'll be lurking around for more input on these as well.

ETA: A guy in this thread: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_493/25025...per__.html is rocking a 16" 5.56 rifle with an Aimpoint mounted at only 4lbs 13.5oz!!!!

Rusted Ace also has one at 5 pounds 4.8 ounce with the dot and a light....


I'm thinking maybe Balios receiver set, Boomfab carrier, latest lightweight uber rail, a very light weight fluted and nitrided 12.5" barrel, and maybe the lightest thread on titanium can?

[burkew23]

I'm thinking maybe Balios receiver set, Boomfab carrier, latest lightweight uber rail, a very light weight fluted and nitrided 12.5" barrel, and maybe the lightest thread on titanium can?

Woah! Boomfab..... That thing is insane! So cool and extremely light. I think it's funny the price of the Balios puts you off but you mention Boomfab. Just giving ya a hard time

But that would pretty much be my dream featherweight AR-15 you described Variable. Someday....someday.

So my main concern with the Balios Lite is the strength and fit for the barrel extension. I wouldn't want it if there's much play. As mentioned above I have considered Marks LW upper but it weighs 10.5 oz, which isn't very light compared to the Balios. But from the reviews I've read on Marks stuff, they are top notch and very tight fitting which matters more to me than a couple ounces.

I still can't make up my mind :confused:

[burkew23]

Saw this comment over on Arf and thought I'd share:


"I just installed an ultra light scionics barrel in #87. The extension was snug and did require some pushing to insert fully.

The upper to lower fit is super snug with zero wiggle at all. So far Iam very impressed with the quality of the 2A parts."

[Variable]

Oh heavens yes the Boomfab price is even more insane than the Balios set!!!

I'm hoping that the fact that some people are actually buying them (Wow!) will inspire some other folks to make 'em cheaper and bring the price down.

As for heavier upper receivers--- Bill A. did recommend the heavy walled extra thick billet receivers in the past, but that was in response to folks using 28" heavy match barrels back then. Receiver flex affecting accuracy was the concern IIRC. With the belief that a heavy stiffer receiver handled the long heavy barrels better. In the case of a lightweight build though, I don't think it would be an issue at all.

I love spending other people's money, I think you should build a hyperlight uber cool Grendel carbine with the Balios receiver set, Boomfab BCG, and whatever other cool bits we can find. Kind of like a Hoard project, but you foot the bill.

[Variable]

It looks like Spike's Tactical will be bringing out a Titanium BCG soon. It also looks like it'll be cheaper than the Boomfab as well...



There's a lengthy discussion thread on Arf with more pics: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_12/636363...m_BCG.html

This could get dangerously ($$$$) expensive if I read too much more....

[burkew23]

I'm thinking maybe Balios receiver set, Boomfab carrier, latest lightweight uber rail, a very light weight fluted and nitrided 12.5" barrel, and maybe the lightest thread on titanium can?

The 3rd post down on this page (he must have followed your advice) http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_124/64362...ml&page=15 machined a 10" KMR to make it even lighter. His rifle is 3lbs 12.2oz!!:eek: Add a lightweight can and you've got yourself just under 5lbs, it's possible!

[Variable]

Wow! That's crazy!

I'll probably keep the top rail though. If other people quit spending my money, I want a clip on thermal some day. I'd need the rail to sync it up with my optic.

You are a definite bad influence.LOL

When I first saw the Balios I didn't pay it a ton of attention at first, but when you posted here about it..... it jogged my brain in reference to Grendel.... You may literally cost me thousands of dollars.LOL

You Very Bad man!!!!!!!

[txgunner00]

I have to stop clicking on things like this...

[burkew23]

You Very Bad man!!!!!!!

LOL! Well I'm pretty sure it's going both ways so I don't feel so bad :p