New Executive Orders from the Kenyan

[Nukes]

The gravamen is not whether obstacles are or were insurmountable, but whether he (or his mom) did what was necessary before he was 18.

It's a binary—did it or did not do it.

Offering a grossly fraudulent "long form" does not indicate he did the necessary filing.

[stanc]

While I agree with Stanc that certain questions miss the bigger issues, I think it is legitimate to question why he won't release his college entrance records (without questioning his birthplace), as well as questioning his Selective Service registration.

If you're going to repeat this, then I'll repeat the questions I asked earlier:

To what end? What do you hope to accomplish by such an investigation?

Also, is he under any legal obligation to answer your questions?

[Alex4922]

Stanc says.
Whether or not they're credible, they seem to me of such overwhelmingly minor importance as to not be worth the time and effort required. Aren't there a multitude of far more important issues that merit attention?

Sorry deal with facts or ignore them.

[Nukes]

If he is not qualified to be the US President, he has no legitimate constitutional executive authority... but that is entirely the point of his (his puppetmasters') regime, isn't it, to tear down the Constitutional Republic?

[Alex4922]

I for one struggle mightily TO refer to this individual as Kenyan..socialist..Barry..whatever. Yes, other more descriptive words come to mind and yes my parents had little use for blacks. I however grew up active in the civil rights struggle in Atlanta and marched in Dr Kings funeral. It does not matter what color a lying POS is, they all smell the same.

[TheOTHERmaninblack]

It is actually more complicated than what you (or I, for that matter) have suggested. There are other conditions if only one parent is a US citizen, but those aren't really that common and certainly don't apply in the case of Barry (my daughter is in similar situation, which is why I know about the requirements). IF he was born abroad, they have 18 years to file the Consular Report of Birth Abroad…and they can amend it at any time. Failure to file the Consular Report may create legal complications for proof of citizenship, but they are not insurmountable.

This is why I've never contended that he is not a U.S. citizen. His mother could easily have presented him to the nearest consulate and everything would have been clear. The thing is, for whatever reason (and always assuming that those relatives et al weren't lying) she chose not to. She chose instead to sneak him into the country and present him to a domestic hospital. We can only speculate as to why this might have been the case, and such speculation would do no real good.

I continue to hold the position that it's eminently possible that he was born in Kenya. I also hold the position that (other than the procedural shenanigans involved) it makes no real difference. I further hold that, at this late date, somebody could produce video evidence that he was born in the Soviet Union and delivered by Kruschev himself wearing red gloves and it won't change a thing. It is in the best interest of the powers that be that the status quo be maintained and thus, it will be maintained regardless of evidence or inquiry.

So, where was he actually squirted out? Moot point, let's move on.

Will he ever be held accountable for any of the misdeeds of his parents or their handlers? No. Not a chance in Hell. Will he ever be held accountable for his own misdeeds or those perpetrated in his name or at his orders? Highly unlikely.

It would ruin most of Washington if any of this skullduggery were brought to light, and so it will not be brought to light. Too many livelihoods and reputations depend on it all remaining in the darkest, deepest pit of nonexistence. Even those on the side of right and justice might give pause at the damage such information might cause by going public. And so, anybody who even gets close will be ridiculed, labeled a nut/extremist/teabagger/conspiracy theorist and hounded until their every word is subject to mockery.

What was the original subject of this thread again?

[stanc]

Stanc says.
Whether or not they're credible, they seem to me of such overwhelmingly minor importance as to not be worth the time and effort required. Aren't there a multitude of far more important issues that merit attention?

Sorry deal with facts or ignore them.

What facts??? :confused:

[stanc]

If he is not qualified to be the US President, he has no legitimate constitutional executive authority...

Can you prove he is not qualified to be POTUS?

[Alex4922]

Never mind Stanc, warm dark areas are probably a reminder of the fetal stage. More time on the range may help air things out.

[Nukes]

[stanc]

Never mind Stanc, warm dark areas are probably a reminder of the fetal stage.

Another refusal to answer a question. Are you a politician? :p

More time on the range may help air things out.

Ah, if only I could.

[stanc]

Hmm. I guess you're posting a self-portrait because you have no proof he isn't qualified to be POTUS...

[cory]

Hmm. I guess you're posting a self-portrait because you have no proof he isn't qualified to be POTUS...

The constitution sets very clear requirements to be the President of the United States of America. It's not on us to prove he isn't qualified, it's on the candidate to prove they meet those requirements.

[BjornF16]

Hmm. I guess you're posting a self-portrait because you have no proof he isn't qualified to be POTUS...

Yes…even if momma didn't go to the consulate, there is nothing in law that still disqualifies him as a US citizen. The FS-240 is merely "proof" of US citizenship, not a requirement. The burden of proof may become more difficult without it, but the State department uses other forms and requests besides the Consular Report of Birth Abroad (and in some areas, the FS-240 wasn't even available).

All of this is premised that he was not born in Hawaii.

Stan, when I was saying "legitimate" earlier and you posed those questions, I am really only trying to say there may be some "legitimate" basis of question. I'm not trying to place any importance to them (only that it is a more legitimate question as compared to where he was born). Those really aren't anything I personally would pursue since there are so many more important things to pursue in regards to Barry and the manner in which he is governing…

…which actually takes us back to the question of "executive orders". Sorry to have hijacked the intended main thrust of the thread (but that is what happens when conspiracy theories are injected into an otherwise legitimate discussion).

[sneaky one]

Geeez you guys-=let it go. Not a one of you has a fixit plan. We are all effed until a New pathway is found.
Start to think positively, lose the negativity-look down the road a year or so....team effort will prevail. United we shall stand.
Many people have screwed up birth day issues. Be happy happy we be on the planet-at this juncture in time. Remember-it could be worse...

[montana]

Geeez you guys-=let it go. Not a one of you has a fixit plan. We are all effed until a New pathway is found.
Start to think positively, lose the negativity-look down the road a year or so....team effort will prevail. United we shall stand.
Many people have screwed up birth day issues. Be happy happy we be on the planet-at this juncture in time. Remember-it could be worse...

I think we have different sides taking place here. We could get a good football game going at the next Grendel forum barbecue to decide the outcome. We just have to decide which side is shirts or skins.

[Nukes]

The fractious circular firing squad assembled here is solid evidence that the banksters' Culture of Death has successfully programmed the masses to act out the banksters' victim-against-victim script, their divide-and-conquer/depopulate-and-enslave strategy. Where men should have agreed on defeating the Kenyan's anti-gun and anti-Constitutional executive orders, instead we see thought cops patrolling for doctrinal purity, political commissars prosecuting charges against "morons" and "racists" who are neither.

When the globalist control freak adversaries to all mankind ride away from their serial looting and pillaging bearing their most recent ill-gotten gains and their surviving victims fight each other for rotten scraps, black-fights-white-fights-brown-fights-yellow, remember and lament this circular firing squad formation. Then it will likely be too late to apprehend and prosecute the real enemy, the perpetrators of crimes, including economic crimes, against humanity. They will succeed because you have wrongly identified your enemy.

[LR1955]

The fractious circular firing squad assembled here is solid evidence that the banksters' Culture of Death has successfully programmed the masses to act out the banksters' victim-against-victim script, their divide-and-conquer/depopulate-and-enslave strategy. Where men should have agreed on defeating the Kenyan's anti-gun and anti-Constitutional executive orders, instead we see thought cops patrolling for doctrinal purity, political commissars prosecuting charges against "morons" and "racists" who are neither.

When the globalist control freak adversaries to all mankind ride away from their serial looting and pillaging bearing their most recent ill-gotten gains and their surviving victims fight each other for rotten scraps, black-fights-white-fights-brown-fights-yellow, remember and lament this circular firing squad formation. Then it will likely be too late to apprehend and prosecute the real enemy, the perpetrators of crimes, including economic crimes, against humanity. They will succeed because you have wrongly identified your enemy.

Huh???

Your rhetoric is no different than that of the radical leftists of the 60's and 70's or the 'Occupy' and Anarchist crowd of today.

Not even a school kid in a Moscow public school would be fooled by this Marxist double speak.

Do you even own a firearm?

LR1955

[Nukes]

Unite and fight the enemy is Marxist? Promoting justice is Marxist? Defending freedom is Marxist? The Founders of this nation would wonder at that "logic." Go figure.

A reminder for those Moscow school children and their intellectual peers:

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

[montana]

[quote=Nukes]The fractious circular firing squad assembled here is solid evidence that the banksters' Culture of Death has successfully programmed the masses to act out the banksters' victim-against-victim script, their divide-and-conquer/depopulate-and-enslave strategy.

Nukes, wasn't the point of this thread about Executive orders being threatened to be use against importation of firearm related material and other anti gun agendas because the where ever the prez comes from couldn't get it done through the legislature? The debate should be how we could over come this type of imperial want to be dictates so we can get our cheaper steel case Grendel ammo. Your right about one thing when people get distracted divide and conquer is the only out come.