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Boston Bombing
This is a must see and hear.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/04/...-bombings/
http://www.vongruffknives.com/

[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Von Gruff



Grendel-Max

Exodus 20:1-17
Acts 4:10-12
Von Gruff Wrote:This is a must see and hear.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/04/...-bombings/
THAT is the "big bombshell" which is supposed to change America? :confused: Rolleyes
Von Gruff Wrote:This is a must see and hear.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/04/...-bombings/

There are Beckites in New Zealand? Who knew?

The Saudi has been discussed, but its interesting Napolitano has stone walled. Its time we quit playing footsy with the Saudis and sent them packing. We don't need their oil, and we certainly don't need their 1300 year old views relating to slavery, infidels, and women.
”You seek escape from pain. We seek the achievement of happiness. You exist for the sake of avoiding punishment. We exist for the sake of earning rewards. Threats will not make us function; fear is not our incentive. It is not death that we wish to avoid, but life that we wish to live.” - John Galt
Let's apply that policy to all our supposed allies.
stanc Wrote:THAT is the "big bombshell" which is supposed to change America? :confused: Rolleyes

I mentioned Beck the other day as well but truthfully I expected more then this although it did reinforce the argument that our Govt is corrupt.
Allies? Most (N Korea, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Pakistan (the list goes on)) are not allies; they are countries that we pay tribute to to keep our women and children safe from attack . The problem is the Dane Guild keeps going up.
bwaites Wrote:There are Beckites in New Zealand? Who knew?

Not only the Blaze but a number of other daily blogs that are not hindered by the liberal left, progressive, and destructive mindset. I like to know what is going on in the parts of the worls that have an outward effect on everywhere else. Historically the world power brokers have been replaced because of incremental weaknesses, either moral, financial or militarially, from without or within. I never thought I would see the refusal of truth be so blatant and without shame as has become the normality of modern media, or the dishonesty that is so dangerously camoflaging adgenda's in front of such a large part of a population that seems to be willingly blinded, with thier exceptance or stupidity amounting to the same thing.
http://www.vongruffknives.com/

[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Von Gruff



Grendel-Max

Exodus 20:1-17
Acts 4:10-12
Nukes Wrote:Let's apply that policy to all our supposed allies.

Great idea in theory, but that would put a crimp in a lot of our treaties/mutual defense pacts. Once you rule out the socialists, the third world leaches, and the backwards/regressive weirdoes, there ain't a lot left. Would imagine the only ones remaining after that would be ABCA (America, Britain, Canada, Australia and New Zealand). Not an economics expert, but would imagine that if we ended our participation in defense pacts/stopped living up to our treaty obligations (regardless of how self deprecating and unsavory they may be) and cut off everyone except ABCA, our economic viability would plummet.

Don't get me wrong - I've been to Saudi Arabia...and several other countries in that area of the world...and they all make my teeth itch. Problem is the last time we, as a nation, perused a isolationist policy, it didn't end well for anyone.
I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: 'O Lord, make my enemies ridiculous.' And God granted it.
- Voltaire
JASmith Wrote:With all due respect to the debate on spelling, I certainly relate to the loss of freedoms to allow social re-engineering. Having said that, we should use the correct spelling whenever possible -- we owe our country that degree of respect. Instead, concentrate on finding and supporting folks who can fill public office in the spirit of a government 'of the people, by the people, and for the people' instead of one 'of the people by the elite.'

Yes, this is what I've been saying. Seeing the "k" used invokes the same reaction when I see the flag being desecrated…get involved; get other people involved; wake people up!
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Deer Hunter Wrote:I mentioned Beck the other day as well but truthfully I expected more then this...
I didn't. I've listened to Beck only two or three times, but that was enough for me to conclude he's full of hyperbole...or more accurately, hyperbull. Wink
stanc Wrote:I didn't. I've listened to Beck only two or three times, but that was enough for me to conclude he's full of hyperbole...or more accurately, hyperbull. Wink

First and foremost an entertainer, because that's what pays the bills. Then an agitator for more truth than the MSM. He isn't always right, in my view, but hes far closer than almost anyone else!
”You seek escape from pain. We seek the achievement of happiness. You exist for the sake of avoiding punishment. We exist for the sake of earning rewards. Threats will not make us function; fear is not our incentive. It is not death that we wish to avoid, but life that we wish to live.” - John Galt
Trooper Wrote:In LA they are joking that had it happened there, the LAPD would have killed at least 11 innocent civilians by mistake. Plus no one in LA would have allowed themselves to be forced to stay home. Too many junkies who can not stand to be isolated.

LOL.

My wife and I were discussing the apparent "martial law"…needless to say we are disturbed by the pics of innocent families forced from their homes at gunpoint. Where is the ACLU?…why aren't more people crying foul over the "police state" in Boston and surrounds?

Just a bunch of sheeple...
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bwaites Wrote:The Saudi has been discussed, but its interesting Napolitano has stone walled.

Need to question as if Bill Clinton were speaking!

Napolitano said "he wasn't currently scheduled to be deported". The next question should have been: "Was he ever scheduled to be deported?"

The night prior to her testimony, they reversed the deportation order (according to various news and blog reports) and scrubbed his "folder".

As far as the FBI knowing about a threat, you also have to treat them as if Bill Clinton were speaking. The FBI said "they had no credible information regarding an attack". The next question should have been: "Did you have any information that an attack would occur at the marathon?"

Why else would they be running a "wmd" exercise at the event?
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Defend the Constitution and our 2A Rights!
stanc Wrote:I didn't. I've listened to Beck only two or three times, but that was enough for me to conclude he's full of hyperbole...or more accurately, hyperbull. Wink
And then of course you can recieve much better coverage of controversial topics on CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, NBC, FOX, etc....?Rolleyes:pWink

As Bill already stated, he's an entertainer who does news that the MSM frequently won't cover. He livens it up because frankly the incessant drone of our impending doom is hard for people to listen to every day.

I listen to the other outlets to try and get a full spread, but I trust him to tell me the truth more often than the other networks by far. He's right far more often than wrong, and if I'd have listened to him sooner than I did, my current position would be markedly better than it is now.
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We either hang together on this, or we'll certainly HANG separately.....
bwaites Wrote:First and foremost an entertainer, because that's what pays the bills. Then an agitator for more truth than the MSM. He isn't always right, in my view, but hes far closer than almost anyone else!

I Agree
BjornF16 Wrote:LOL.

My wife and I were discussing the apparent "martial law"…needless to say we are disturbed by the pics of innocent families forced from their homes at gunpoint. Where is the ACLU?…why aren't more people crying foul over the "police state" in Boston and surrounds?

Just a bunch of sheeple...

I watched a video last night where a neighbor filmed the checking of a house. Now I know the Cops have a job to do but the way they treated these innocent people cowering in their homes really yanked my chain. They were told do what I say or i'll shoot you and yanked out of their home, frisked 2 or 3 times and really just abused in my opinion. No warrant just do what I say or die.
As a LEO I had worked man hunts where we checked vehicles at a checkpoint looking for escapee ect. Normally we'd look into the passenger compartment and ask to look in the trunk. From people's response you could get a pretty good idea you weren't going to find anything. If a person refused I never would have pushed the issue unless I really believed the suspect was in the vehicle.

If the Officers had come to my house and said we want to look inside I would have said I have nothing to hide but your not coming in my house without a warrant. If they said they were checking any way with no warrant I'd try to get every officers name, department date and time. Even a video would be helpful as I think the Officers would be liable to be sued for violating a persons rights. I can't see how the Officers could claim hot pursuit and martial law would be a stretch IMHO.
...it sounds like a fatal outcome in these times. "We thought he had a gun."

A friend sent me this compilation:

Quote:“I have my own army in the NYPD, which is the seventh biggest army in
the world. I have my own State Department, much to Foggy Bottom’s
annoyance. We have the United Nations in New York, and so we have an
entree into the diplomatic world that Washington does not have ... I
don’t listen to Washington very much, which is something they’re not
thrillled about."

Michael Bloomberg
Mayor Bloomberg: 'I Have My Own Army'
http://politicker.com/2011/11/mayor-bloo...-11-30-11/



In the wake of the Boston Marathon bombings, Mayor Michael Bloomberg
said Monday the country’s interpretation of the Constitution will “have
to change” to allow for greater security to stave off future attacks.
“The people who are worried about privacy have a legitimate worry,” Mr.
Bloomberg said during a press conference in Midtown. “But we live in a
complex word where you’re going to have to have a level of security
greater than you did back in the olden days, if you will. And our laws
and our interpretation of the Constitution, I think, have to change.”
“Clearly the Supreme Court has recognized that you have to have
different interpretations of the Second Amendment and what it applies to
and reasonable gun laws …

Bloomberg Says Interpretation of Constitution Will ‘Have to Change’
After Boston Bombing
http://politicker.com/2013/04/bloomberg-...to-change/



The deep disappointment coming from the White House, gun control
advocates and the parents of Newtown, Conn., at the demise of the
Manchin-Toomey Senate compromise gun bill is understandable. But some of
the rhetoric following the amendment’s defeat has been over the top.
Supporters of stricter gun control have called those who voted against
the measure “cowards,” a strange label for senators who voted contrary
to what 85 percent of the country, New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg and
virtually all in the media wanted. Is it courageous to follow national
public opinion and most of TV’s talking heads or to vote against them?

The He Said, She Said of
Gun Control: Get Over It
http://www.rollcall.com/news/the_he_said...244-1.html



Polls can be slanted by carefully worded questions to achieve any
desired outcome. It is a fact that most people do not know what [gun
control] laws currently exist; thus, it is meaningless to assert that
people favor "stricter" laws when they do not know how "strict" the laws
are in the first place ... Unbiased, scientific polls have consistently
shown that most people:

Oppose costly registration of firearms.
Oppose giving police power to decide who should own guns.
Do not believe that stricter gun laws would prevent criminals from
illegally obtaining guns.

TEN MYTHS ABOUT GUN CONTROL
http://people.duke.edu/~gnsmith/articles/myths.htm



Now we have captured the two terrorists from Chechnya who come from the
troubled region that is Muslim, but we cannot understand their motives,
not yet. And Obama encourages us to refrain. This said, the mortuary
pictures of the older brother of the two are extremely disturbing,
raising questions as to whether the Boston Police Department captured
him with too much force.

Ruth O'Brien
City University of New York Professor
Professor: We Used 'Too Much Force' Capturing Boston Bombers
http://nation.foxnews.com/ruth-obrien/20...z2RIOLfzLJ



Shocking footage has emerged from Friday’s lockdown in Boston, where
police, federal agents, national guard troops and SWAT teams enforced
door to door searches of everyone’s home within twenty blocks as the
entire city was placed under orders to stay off the streets. The video,
shot by a resident from their own house across the street, shows police
barking orders at men and women as they order them at gunpoint to
identify themselves, put their hands on their heads, and get out of
their own home ... The story floated in the mainstream media that the
door to door searches were conducted with the voluntary consent of the
residents of Watertown is clearly false.

Shocking Footage: Americans Ordered Out Of Homes At Gunpoint By SWAT
teams. This is what martial law in the US looks like.
http://www.infowars.com/shocking-footage...wat-teams/



"I do think we need more cameras," Republican Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y.,
said the day after the Boston Marathon bombing. "We have to stay ahead
of the terrorists." "We Need More Cameras, and We Need Them Now," blared
the headline at Slate magazine. As with every terrorist attack and
high-profile killing, the Boston bombing has prompted calls for
Americans to give up civil liberties for the sake of security. Rather
than gun control or airport pat-downs, this time the call is for a Big
Brother-like network of police cameras allowing authorities to more
closely monitor people who move about the streets.

Civil society, not Big Brother,
is the American way
http://washingtonexaminer.com/tim-carney...le/2527754



CBS’s Lesley Stahl: Can we go back to what Bob [Woodward] had mentioned
about privacy? Because, yes, we have something brilliant happened here,
but it happened because the tools that they are using are the tools that
deprive us of any kind of anonymity in our own lives. We will never be
able to go anywhere ... We're all going to end up wearing burqas [to
hide our faces]. I’m telling you, we are.

Lesley Stahl: ‘We're All Going To End Up Wearing Burqas’
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppa...ing-burqas

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bwaites Wrote:First and foremost an entertainer, because that's what pays the bills. Then an agitator for more truth than the MSM. He isn't always right, in my view, but hes far closer than almost anyone else!

I bet he would jump ship and become a lib if some station offered him more $$$$.
Variable Wrote:And then of course you can recieve much better coverage of controversial topics on CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, NBC, FOX, etc....?Rolleyes
I prefer CNN for actual news coverage, but generally also check FauxNews. I used to watch The O'Reilly Factor and Hannity & Colmes (sp?), but found that O'Reilly was a self-righteous blowhard, Hannity an illiterate moron, and Colmes terribly boring. Since then, I quit watching such programs, regardless of who the host is.
Quote:As Bill already stated, he's an entertainer who does news that the MSM frequently won't cover. He livens it up because frankly the incessant drone of our impending doom is hard for people to listen to every day.
Indeed. After hearing such people incessantly cry "The sky is falling!" for decades, I stopped listening years ago. Cool


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