Rings for Howa Mini

[Dinny]

I want to use Talley Lightweight rings but MidwayUSA lists the Rem 700 rings as being for short action, long action, ADL, or BDL. Will the standard short action BDL rings work?

Thanks, Dinny

[jason miller]

930734- lows for a Weatherby Vanguard

Same contour as the Rem 700 set, but the rear base is shortened and won’t hang over the ejector port.

[Dinny]

Jason,
I have them bookmarked on Midway's site. Just gotta decide which scope I'm gonna use, 1" or 30mm.

Thanks, Dinny

[FloorPoor]

I have a set of Talley lite weight rings on a Howa mini. Rem M700 are the correct rings. The Howa's action is basically a cloned M700 action, with the M700 issues fixed (safety, extractor, trigger) Howa actions are tapped the same as M700 actions. I have low 1" rings/bases with a 40mm scope. Plenty of room for an even larger bell with the sporter weight barrel. They fit great.

[Dinny]

Rem M700 are the correct rings. I know this! The Howa's action is basically a cloned M700 action, with the M700 issues fixed (safety, extractor, trigger) Howa actions are tapped the same as M700 actions. I know this too!

So what model number are you using and do they hand over into the ejection port?

Thanks, Dinny

[FloorPoor]

So what model number are you using and do they hand over into the ejection port?

Thanks, Dinny

Manufacturer # 930700

The rear base hangs over the ejection port about 1/8"

I'll get a photo tomorrow if you would like.

[Stevil]

Meopta Meopro 4-12x50 Talley Lows

[Dinny]

930734- lows for a Weatherby Vanguard

Same contour as the Rem 700 set, but the rear base is shortened and won’t hang over the ejector port.

These fit perfectly! Thanks for the recommendation.

Dinny

[jason miller]

These fit perfectly! Thanks for the recommendation.

Dinny

You’re welcome. Thanks for getting the ball rolling on the flush bottom-metal I’d been asking for for three years!

[Dinny]

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[stonehog]

Any recommended picatinny rails for the Howa Mini?

[Stinky Coyote]

Any recommended picatinny rails for the Howa Mini?

yes, I wanted more robust yet super low mounting so went with Burris xt two piece bases and old school detach top mount 1" low weaver rings, they are easily as low as the lowest talley and maybe a bit lower, cheek alignment I'm happy with finally and I'm a guy who rarely finds solutions low enough for factory stocks

if you need lowest 30mm rings look up henneberger, they will be close to this at bottom of scope tube which of course puts center of tube and where your eye goes in eye box about 2.3mm higher...so I'm happiest with this set up and 1" scope

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not sure I'd want full length rail if top feeding hinged floor plates fyi

[grayfox]

Any recommended picatinny rails for the Howa Mini?

You have 2 to choose from, both are fine.
Outer impact and EGW.
EGW IIRC has both 0 moa and 20 moa. Outer is maybe only 0 moa but I haven't looked at them for a bit.
I'm going to switch my 0 moa for a 20 after new years, to give my scope a little more room. My howa mini for some reason needs more moa to zero the scope than most of my rifles. I have one on there now that works fine but I want a bit more flexibility, so will swap over to the 20 in a few weeks.

I do recommend a bit of blue loktite on the pic rail screws, I had a rail loosen up on me once. Never again.

[MOW]

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Those Talleys won't hold up when you throw you rifle into the rocks or that Reupold.

[Stinky Coyote]

My set up will bounce off the rocks. Talley needs to retool, 7075, and way more thread meat on the top clamps with much longer screws.

[Stinky Coyote]

I’d measure and cut a rail center out over the action port if wanting 20 moa and still wide open middle for top loading, turn a one piece rail into a two piece. If 0 moa just get the Burris steel xt two piece bases.

[Old Bob]

I have some two-piece 0 moa steel pic bases on my Howa heavy barrel mini - at least I think they're 0 moa. I have no idea who made them. They were in a baggy in my spare parts bin. Anyway, will they be sufficient to get me on steel at 750yds? That's the furthest berm at the range I go to. Do I need 20 moa bases? I might have to do what Stinky suggested & cut the middle out of a full length pic rail. It's a PITA cramming rounds into the mag box with a full length pic rail installed. I'll be using factory ammo from my Hornady 123gr AMAX stash. My scope is a 4.5-14x40 Leupold.

[grayfox]

Using the most optimistic MV I've had for a 20 inch (2510 fps), you're looking at about 25 MOA drop at 750 yds. Still supersonic (500 elev), but for your leupold you'll want to do the math whether it can dial in that amount of drop or not. Now idk if the 123 Amax factory gets that MV for you or not.

I looked up a couple of the vx-3/3i/cds's (30 mm tubes) and their specs say 75 moa of elevation, which means if you can perfectly zero at "optical zero" of the scope, then you have 37.5 moa of elevation available. So in theory under these assumptions, yes you would be able to reach 750, it would be by dial-up not hold-over depending on the reticle.

[cwlongshot]

I have some two-piece 0 moa steel pic bases on my Howa heavy barrel mini - at least I think they're 0 moa. I have no idea who made them. They were in a baggy in my spare parts bin. Anyway, will they be sufficient to get me on steel at 750yds? That's the furthest berm at the range I go to. Do I need 20 moa bases? I might have to do what Stinky suggested & cut the middle out of a full length pic rail. It's a PITA cramming rounds into the mag box with a full length pic rail installed. I'll be using factory ammo from my Hornady 123gr AMAX stash. My scope is a 4.5-14x40 Leupold.

The + MOA base allows you to "steal" adjustment inside your scope.

Fox gave it to ya straight.

Just want to clarify the ability to adjust to long distance depends upon adjustment range of your optic. Lets say you have 25 moa up & 25 moa down. A 20 moa base re adjusts where your optic "points" allowing that much more adjustment to distance. Its not magic. So if your optic has adjustment range ( not all scopes same & generally speaking 30mm gets ya more & 34mm gets ya more yet.) Determines your ability to adjust to desired poa @ range.
The option if insufficient is reticle hold over.

In any event, & IMHO a+ MOA base is seldom a bad idea.

Good luck!

CW

[Old Bob]

The Leupold scope I have has their Varmint Hunter Reticle. There is no vertical stadia line above the horizontal line. It's pretty much a BDC reticle set-up. I'll zero the scope for 200yds & then see how much holdover is available with my current bases. IIRC, the bullet drop calibration is for .308Win so it oughta be close for the Grendel. I have a feeling I'll run out of elevation before I get to 750yds. I've seen the Tally 20 moa two-piece scope ring/base combo on the 'net but they're aluminum. I'd prefer steel. I saw another brand that looks similar to the Tallys but they're way more expensive & aluminum as well. The rear ring has a bubble level built into it & they're 25 moa.

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