GREYBUFF Wrote:Anyone use the Arisaka Optic Levelor? A friend just texted me said this is the best thing since the invention of the AR-15. Thoughts?
Grey,
SPUHR has the same system in their scopes and I have used them
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They have built-in grooves for their one-piece mounts and the system in the photo for separate mounts.
It is OK, not perfect, because it assumes your scope's erector mechanism is square with the flat base of the scope. I recommend validating whatever you end up with by doing a Tall Target test at 100. Mount your scope with the Arisaka and Zero the gun at 100. Then dial up something equivalent to 1K yards, say 10 Mils. Shoot again at the same point of aim and check whether the two groups are exactly vertical. This will also check the scope's elevation is what the dial says it is (for scope correction factor). Correct if there is a cant, and then attach your scope's bubble level last.
You can also mimic the Arisaka/SPUHR method with a set of thick hex wrenches. Find the hex wrench that almost jams in the gap between the scope base and rail. Then turn it so it makes contact in the gap with the scope base. With a bit of wiggling the scope it squares itself with the wrench.
GREYBUFF Wrote:Anyone use the Arisaka Optic Levelor? A friend just texted me said this is the best thing since the invention of the AR-15. Thoughts?
Works OK if the bottom of the scope is absolutely flat. Not all scopes are flat even if they appear so. Also, you can't use it with some cantilever type scope mounts. They have to be flat too. With some scope/ring/base combos, there isn't enough room for the device to fit. I haven't been able to get a Leupold scope level with that device. It's a good idea & works when conditions are ideal.
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10-08-2022, 06:03 AM (This post was last modified: 10-08-2022, 06:06 AM by Zeneffect.)
3 pages and nobody said feeler gauges yet.
Impressive.
I prefer the quantum reality method where you level it off the base as fast as a nascar pit crew then just believe it's perfectly straight, because it is until it's measured.
GREYBUFF Wrote:Anyone use the Arisaka Optic Levelor? A friend just texted me said this is the best thing since the invention of the AR-15. Thoughts?
It is a very nice piece of kit. Make sure to keep checking level and the tightness(?) of the wedge when tightening the rings. I don't think you want to bind up the tube as you bring it down closer to the bore.
Fix-it Sticks also makes a "Scope Jack", which in the right application is also very very easy. At least not taking in to account all the variable introduced previously in this thread
I level the reticle and bubble on the scope with a plumb bob first, marry them up dead nuts! Then use the cheap Wheeler scope kit to find top dead center on the gun. Then match the scope bubble to the gun bubble! Perfect every time! truthfully, I dont think it has to be that close with centerfire for most people but you can see results with long range rimfire and long range pellet guns where the max ordinate is remarkably high for such short distances!
Have dozens upon dozens of scopes, mostly low to mid price range. Very few reticles perfectly align vertically with the scope body! Using the flat side of scope base under the erector set or the flats on scope caps for true alignment will be wildly off plumb.
truthfully, I dont think it has to be that close with centerfire for most people but you can see results with long range rimfire and long range pellet guns where the max ordinate is remarkably high for such short distances!