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Updated Selection of Projectiles for the Grendel
#41
rickOshay Wrote:Here is a link to the first page of data Whelenon sent me - hunting bullets sorted by weight and then by BC: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/34132774/Grendel...ection.pdf

Is this the type of output the members are looking for?

First off lets give credit to where credit is due, LRRPF52 put this list together and got the ball rolling. Thank you LRRPF52.

rickOshay,
Nice work, looks like a plan. To me it makes sense to have bullets listed by category(hunting/varmint/target) then sorted by bullet weight then by BC. New information could be added by any member by sending it to "spreadsheet master" via PM.

That's my 2 cents anyone else like to weight in here?
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#42
Whelenon Wrote:...rickOshay,
Nice work, looks like a plan. To me it makes sense to have bullets listed by category(hunting/varmint/target) then sorted by bullet weight then by BC. New information could be added by any member by sending it to "spreadsheet master" via PM.

That's my 2 cents anyone else like to weight in here?
Excellent!

Very little effort for the spreadsheet master and the essential firewalls are there.
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#43
I would also like to have a picture of all the Grendel projectiles in a line-up, which will be fun to put together. Maybe several people could send me one of each of the bullets that I don't have, and I could do the line-up photo with each projectile numbered and annotated. I get tired of the 6.8 SPC Bullets photo with several GS Custom Solids in the list, banned bullets shown, and bullets that won't even mag-feed from an AR COAL listed, with that being used as evidence that there are more projectiles available for the 6.8, when nothing could be further from the truth. I actually believed that claim until I researched what was available for the Grendel just up to the 130gr class of bullets from big-name manufacturers, let alone the speciality bullet makers and 140gr projectiles that still will feed through the Grendel.

There are way more 6.5mm bullets out there than there ever will be for .277 bores, and .264" bores haven't been popular in the US until recently with the growing tide of .260 Remington, 6.5 Grendel, 6.5 Creedmoor, and 6.5x47 Lapua rifles, with a slowly increasing resurgence in the .264/6.5 magnums that Winchester and Remington introduced in 1959 and 1966.

Here are the 6.5 bullets I currently have for the photo:

100gr Nosler BT
107gr Sierra Match King
120gr Nosler BT
120gr SMK
123gr Prvi SP
123gr AMAX
123gr Lapua Scenar
129gr Hornady SST
130gr Berger VLD

I'll see what I can get from bwaites and LR1955 at BoomerShoot when we meet up for a weekend of long-range explosive fun.
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#44
Now we just need to decide on sheetmaster(s). Because I'm a new, I don't think I should be one. I do think the group should have two - main and a back up - with control of the master sheet.

If the group wants to use my dropbox site, then I want be the one posting. I would be happy to make the PDF's and post whatever the sheetmaster has ready.
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#45
I'd be willing to play sheetmaster with rick0shay posting from his dropbox. How do we make this link to the list easy to find on the forum? The way it sits now you'd have to go through 5 pages of this thread to find the link. Is there a way to have the link at the front of the sticky?
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#46
LRRPF52 Wrote:I would also like to have a picture of all the Grendel projectiles in a line-up, which will be fun to put together. Maybe several people could send me one of each of the bullets that I don't have, and I could do the line-up photo with each projectile numbered and annotated. I get tired of the 6.8 SPC Bullets photo with several GS Custom Solids in the list, banned bullets shown, and bullets that won't even mag-feed from an AR COAL listed, with that being used as evidence that there are more projectiles available for the 6.8, when nothing could be further from the truth. I actually believed that claim until I researched what was available for the Grendel just up to the 130gr class of bullets from big-name manufacturers, let alone the speciality bullet makers and 140gr projectiles that still will feed through the Grendel.

There are way more 6.5mm bullets out there than there ever will be for .277 bores, and .264" bores haven't been popular in the US until recently with the growing tide of .260 Remington, 6.5 Grendel, 6.5 Creedmoor, and 6.5x47 Lapua rifles, with a slowly increasing resurgence in the .264/6.5 magnums that Winchester and Remington introduced in 1959 and 1966.

Here are the 6.5 bullets I currently have for the photo:

100gr Nosler BT
107gr Sierra Match King
120gr Nosler BT
120gr SMK
123gr Prvi SP
123gr AMAX
123gr Lapua Scenar
129gr Hornady SST
130gr Berger VLD

I'll see what I can get from bwaites and LR1955 at BoomerShoot when we meet up for a weekend of long-range explosive fun.

I have 120 Norma FMJ
Barnes 110 Banded solid
Hornady Vmax
Nosler 125 Partition
Berger 120 (I think)
Berger 100 (I think)

And maybe one or two more, I may have to pull a few bullets.


Barnes
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#47
My son has Hornady 129 gr SP (The flat-base softpoint).

Is there a particular backdrop (white paper, mono-color cloth, etc.) that we should use?
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#48
Anyone shooting anything <100 gr ?
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#49
Here is a picture of the 6.5 Barnes TTSX bullets, and the LRX, with a 120 grain Nosler BT for reference. The 120 gr barnes TTSX is difficult, the 127 grain LRX would be very hard to satisfactorily load in the Grendel, but not the Creedmoor or .260 Remington.[Image: attachment.php?attachmentid=1214]
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#50
rickOshay Wrote:Anyone shooting anything <100 gr ?
Well, sloth and lack of free time precludes my actually shooting them, but I do have some 85gr. Sierra HPs...

I could either measure and photogragh them, or mail one to somebody.
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#51
LRRPF52 Wrote:I would also like to have a picture of all the Grendel projectiles in a line-up, which will be fun to put together. Maybe several people could send me one of each of the bullets that I don't have, and I could do the line-up photo with each projectile numbered and annotated. I get tired of the 6.8 SPC Bullets photo with several GS Custom Solids in the list, banned bullets shown, and bullets that won't even mag-feed from an AR COAL listed, with that being used as evidence that there are more projectiles available for the 6.8, when nothing could be further from the truth. I actually believed that claim until I researched what was available for the Grendel just up to the 130gr class of bullets from big-name manufacturers, let alone the speciality bullet makers and 140gr projectiles that still will feed through the Grendel.

There are way more 6.5mm bullets out there than there ever will be for .277 bores, and .264" bores haven't been popular in the US until recently with the growing tide of .260 Remington, 6.5 Grendel, 6.5 Creedmoor, and 6.5x47 Lapua rifles, with a slowly increasing resurgence in the .264/6.5 magnums that Winchester and Remington introduced in 1959 and 1966.

Here are the 6.5 bullets I currently have for the photo:

100gr Nosler BT
107gr Sierra Match King
120gr Nosler BT
120gr SMK
123gr Prvi SP
123gr AMAX
123gr Lapua Scenar
129gr Hornady SST
130gr Berger VLD

I'll see what I can get from bwaites and LR1955 at BoomerShoot when we meet up for a weekend of long-range explosive fun.

I could mail you an 85gr. Sierra HP, a 160gr. Hornady RN, and a 123gr. Sierra HP if it'll help. I could also send a 120 Wolf MPT projo, but it'd have pull marks since I don't have any loose ones.

Everybody could do pics, but it'd be better if you had all of the projos together for one all inclusive pic. We need a master list of 6.5 bullets posted with the ones you have annotated, then we can chime in with which ones we can contribute. Everybody gets their assignment for what to contribute, and then we mail them to you. That'd help eliminate duplication and/or the need for more than one mailing from anybody.

I'll have to dig through my stuff and see if I have any others you might need.
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#52
I agree. Mail the projos to LRRPF55 for a single photo.

I will post a page that contains the list of what we have (the Horde's horde) vs the complete list. Then add the photo when ready.
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#53
I just picked up some 95gr VMAX's so I can show what kind of velocity a 16" barrel can generate with the Grendel, even though I would only use these on 2-legged dogs. Here's my updated list of what I have:

95gr Hornady VMAX
100gr Nosler BT
107gr Sierra Match King
120gr Nosler BT
120gr SMK
123gr Prvi SP
123gr AMAX
123gr Lapua Scenar
129gr Hornady SST
130gr Berger VLD
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#54
I have ready to go:

95 Hornady VMax
100 Berger
110 Barnes Banded solid
120 Berger 120 Norma FMJ
120 Barnes TSX
123 Sierra MK
125 Nosler Partition
”You seek escape from pain. We seek the achievement of happiness. You exist for the sake of avoiding punishment. We exist for the sake of earning rewards. Threats will not make us function; fear is not our incentive. It is not death that we wish to avoid, but life that we wish to live.” - John Galt
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#55
So now we only need like 30+ more projectiles from the list...
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#56
OK, I left out the bullets listed above. Some of these may be historical, or even hysterical, but I have a supply of them all, and it will be interesting to see them in the picture. These are packaged, labeled, and I'll mail them out tomorrow.

Barnes original x, 100 and 140 grain
Barnes 127 grain LRX
Barnes 130 grain TSX boattail
Hornady 160 gr RN
Midway Repackaged Blem 140 gr BT polymer SP (Looks a lot like a Nosler BT)
Norma 156 gr ORYX
Nosler 125 and 140 gr partition (one is the repeat of above, but I already had it in the package)
Sierra Factory Moly Coated 120 and 140 gr matchkings
Swift Scirocco (which I spell wrong half the time) 130 gr
Swift A-Fram 140 gr

Hey, some of these were great in Africa in the .260 Ackley Improved, and the 6.5-284, but they are all 6.5's so you can cull them as you wish.
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#57
You guys let me know which ones to add to the list. Do we draw the line at 140gr ?
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#58
I would agree about 140gr for the Grendel but if one of the Bolt Gun guys would chime in. For a bolt gun would you be using anything bigger? Or Contender/Encore.
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#59
I have the following if you need them

100 Amax
120 Speer SP
120 Hornady SP
129 SST
140 Hornady SP
160 Hornady RN - for sub-sonic

Maybe some others.
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#60
The 160 gr round nose bullet is part of an active thread for subsonic loads that cycle the action.
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