Montana gets Constitutional Carry

[montana]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZCITmsllL4

[Razorback]

Hopefully TX., S.C., come on board soon!

[dammitman]

i think that the constitutional carry is going to somehow come back to be used againsted people.

[Dug Silverman]

i think that the constitutional carry is going to somehow come back to be used againsted people.

Care to elaborate? I’m usually the one to see the sinister side of things, but I can’t come up with any way they can use constitutional rights against us.

[dammitman]

i can foresee events that will include people who have no training nor did they require it, carrying firearms and using them in some situation where they thought they had the right to shoot. they will not have practiced at all especially now that ammo is much more expensive than ever and they will miss and hit bystanders who will not be happy about that,,,,,there will be plenty of media coverage about it and they will portray constitutional carry as very dangerous and firearms in general the same. now lets not pretend how that the media is the most dangerous and opinion making tool on this planet so they again will win the fight there and as they will find many of these type of shootings cause they are coming they will show all of those bad shootings in one clip. you cannot have 5 million new gun owners as of late and not wonder why this could not happen. carrying guns needs to come with practicing with your firearm and thats just not happening enough,,,,,having the constitutional right to carry does not make you competant enough to actually do so. i know why to many folks who have no business holding a loaded firearm let alone walking around with it. could they with practice and a bit of training get it? maybe,,,,,but just teling them hey, you have the right to do it so buy a gun, load it up and carry it. i help to work with guys all the time to make sure they are safe and keep themselves and their families safe but i also know alot of idiots who are gonna ruin things by using constitutional carry to just pack around a loaded gun,,,,like those guys who pack a loaded ar15 into the grocery store cause its their right to do so,,,,just my 2 cents

[montana]

i can foresee events that will include people who have no training nor did they require it, carrying firearms and using them in some situation where they thought they had the right to shoot. they will not have practiced at all especially now that ammo is much more expensive than ever and they will miss and hit bystanders who will not be happy about that,,,,,there will be plenty of media coverage about it and they will portray constitutional carry as very dangerous and firearms in general the same. now lets not pretend how that the media is the most dangerous and opinion making tool on this planet so they again will win the fight there and as they will find many of these type of shootings cause they are coming they will show all of those bad shootings in one clip. you cannot have 5 million new gun owners as of late and not wonder why this could not happen. carrying guns needs to come with practicing with your firearm and thats just not happening enough,,,,,having the constitutional right to carry does not make you competant enough to actually do so. i know why to many folks who have no business holding a loaded firearm let alone walking around with it. could they with practice and a bit of training get it? maybe,,,,,but just teling them hey, you have the right to do it so buy a gun, load it up and carry it. i help to work with guys all the time to make sure they are safe and keep themselves and their families safe but i also know alot of idiots who are gonna ruin things by using constitutional carry to just pack around a loaded gun,,,,like those guys who pack a loaded ar15 into the grocery store cause its their right to do so,,,,just my 2 cents

I agree people need training, "but Montana has had concealed carry for more than 94% of the state" for decades. It is in city limits that it is also now legal to carry concealed. I don't share your doom and gloom for concealed carry in the city limits, since residents have been doing it out side the city limits and in their vehicles for decades. Other states that had Constitutional carry for years, have not had any problems either. That said, it is the citizens responsibility to understand the law and know they are responsible for their decisions and actions. It's called freedom..

[Dug Silverman]

i can foresee events that will include people who have no training nor did they require it, carrying firearms and using them in some situation where they thought they had the right to shoot. they will not have practiced at all especially now that ammo is much more expensive than ever and they will miss and hit bystanders who will not be happy about that,,,,,there will be plenty of media coverage about it and they will portray constitutional carry as very dangerous and firearms in general the same. now lets not pretend how that the media is the most dangerous and opinion making tool on this planet so they again will win the fight there and as they will find many of these type of shootings cause they are coming they will show all of those bad shootings in one clip. you cannot have 5 million new gun owners as of late and not wonder why this could not happen. carrying guns needs to come with practicing with your firearm and thats just not happening enough,,,,,having the constitutional right to carry does not make you competant enough to actually do so. i know why to many folks who have no business holding a loaded firearm let alone walking around with it. could they with practice and a bit of training get it? maybe,,,,,but just teling them hey, you have the right to do it so buy a gun, load it up and carry it. i help to work with guys all the time to make sure they are safe and keep themselves and their families safe but i also know alot of idiots who are gonna ruin things by using constitutional carry to just pack around a loaded gun,,,,like those guys who pack a loaded ar15 into the grocery store cause its their right to do so,,,,just my 2 cents

I guess I can understand where you’re coming from. In the western states where constitutional carry is becoming more common, gun ownership is the norm, and “new gun owners” are generally children and wouldn’t be carrying anyway, we don’t generally worry about the idiots that could ruin this for everyone.

[dammitman]

I guess I can understand where you’re coming from. In the western states where constitutional carry is becoming more common, gun ownership is the norm, and “new gun owners” are generally children and wouldn’t be carrying anyway, we don’t generally worry about the idiots that could ruin this for everyone.

i was really aprehensive about reopening and reading the responces to this thread after what i posted but i felt i really meant what my concerns were and are. its the "we dont generally worry about the idiots" part that makes me concerned. worry a bit about the idiots as they just got joe biden elected president of the united states along with harris,,,, and montana i can really understand how you are looking at your state and towns there in montana and how its working so well. but as you stated thats the way its been for decades wellits now times and they are changing,,, but remember that california is controlled by the ones in those metropolis who keep voting in the retarded libs and dems and that the control of that state. the hugest part of california land mass is held by folks like us who need a gun to protect themselves from animals and also criminals,, and will vote that way but are in a minority because there are just too many in the cities who out number them. thats sad for those country folks,,,
i am just seeing that the media is so powerful and overtakeing real truthful informationwith crap and in a short time they will use the constitutional carry to show how all these people carrying weapons need to be stopped by new laws and the masses will agree because its for the best of all. please people ,,,,,make sure you know what your shooting rights are,,,,practice you firearm skills,,,,,and dont carry an ar15 into your local grocery store just because it you constitutional right to do so,,,"let a word to the wise" as dad told me,,,,,,

[sqeezeatrigger]

I live in Montana, a small town of about 5000(4990 too many!) and also have some worries about how people, society has changed- not for the better. People don't have sit down conversations anymore- they will text each other across the table and will cross a street without looking up from those stupid phones. My point being of inexperienced people pulling a firearm or worse , that can and will be used against all of us who value our freedoms.

[montana]

I live in Montana, a small town of about 5000(4990 too many!) and also have some worries about how people, society has changed- not for the better. People don't have sit down conversations anymore- they will text each other across the table and will cross a street without looking up from those stupid phones. My point being of inexperienced people pulling a firearm or worse , that can and will be used against all of us who value our freedoms.

So you are against Constitutional carry?? The anti's don't need excuses, they just create lies to further their agenda if the truth doesn't match their rhetoric ... The assault weapon ban is a good example, yet they keep playing on peoples fears, not truths. If our rights were determined and limited by fear and the lowest common denominator, we would be communist china. Don't forget gun control is about control, not safety. Montanan's have had concealed carry outside city limits and in their vehicles for many decades, this new law eliminates dangerous "gun free zones.

[sqeezeatrigger]

So you are against Constitutional carry?? The anti's don't need excuses, they just create lies to further their agenda if the truth doesn't match their rhetoric ... The assault weapon ban is a good example, yet they keep playing on peoples fears, not truths. If our rights were determined and limited by fear and the lowest common denominator, we would be communist china. Don't forget gun control is about control, not safety. Montanan's have had concealed carry outside city limits and in their vehicles for many decades, this new law eliminates dangerous "gun free zones.

No I'm definitely not against constitutional carry-- I just fear someone doing something stupid and it reflecting on all of us , there is just too much stupid going on anymore. As you said, the anti' don't need a reason.

[dammitman]

No I'm definitely not against constitutional carry-- I just fear someone doing something stupid and it reflecting on all of us , there is just too much stupid going on anymore. As you said, the anti' don't need a reason.

and thats what i think is going to happen,,,,with the MEDIA on "their" side,,,,we have no chance to actually defend ourselves. i still say that the MEDIA is the most powerful weapon ever,,,,