Howa Mini - Comparison of Bottom Metal Upgrade

[Dinny]

Anybody try a timney with these alternate bottoms?
I really liked the timney I put into my howa... it was the 1500 but fit just fine, with the DIP bottom assembly.

Not me. I'm waiting for Wayne York's supply to come in from Timney. I already opened my bottom metal for the Jard and hope there's enough space for the Timney.

Thanks, Dinny

[phorizt]

Not me. I'm waiting for Wayne York's supply to come in from Timney. I already opened my bottom metal for the Jard and hope there's enough space for the Timney.

Thanks, Dinny

any idea what the eta is on these? I need to get this thing set up for this hunting season?
I contacted Jard this week about the issue with the safety and got no response. So needless to say I'll never use one of their products again.

[Dinny]

any idea what the eta is on these? I need to get this thing set up for this hunting season?
I contacted Jard this week about the issue with the safety and got no response. So needless to say I'll never use one of their products again.

Hopefully soon. Good luck with the Jard. As stated before my ordeal took place over several months from the time of purchase to the time of refund. That trigger wasn't right from day 1.

Thanks, Dinny

[tortoise1956]

I bought the Jefferson metal triggerguard, and installed it this evening. Some observations:

The fit and finish was perfect - the triggerguard itself dropped right in place.
The original magazine release, installed in the new bottom metal, holds the magazine very securely. I have to put a lot more effort into moving the release so that the mag will drop. I estimate it at about 3-5 times as much pressure needed to disengage the mag.
The additional spring tension means that maneuvering the OEM release into place is definitely touchier. I ended up using a toothpick, cut to length, to hold the spring in the release so that I could push the assembly into place and insert the pin.
The spring pressure is enough by itself that I saw no reason to tighten the set screw on the pin.
For about $108 delivered, I now have a real metal triggerguard installed at the correct torque, and I no longer have to worry about accidentally dropping the mag.

I definitely recommend the Jefferson metal triggerguard for anyone that's tired of hearing your mag hit the ground, but doesn't want to go to a DBM.

Next on the list - receiving and installing the trigger kit I bought from Gunbloke in Australia. A 1.0 Lb trigger pull sounds awesome!


Edited to add that I have a Boyds Varmint Thumbhole stock on my Howa. The Jefferson triggerguard was a drop-in on that particular stock model. If you have a different stock, YMMV...

[tortoise1956]

Edited to add that I have a Boyds Varmint Thumbhole stock on my Howa. The Jefferson triggerguard was a drop-in on that particular stock model. If you have a different stock, YMMV...

[FloorPoor]

I only have experience with the Jefferson Outdoors version. It is 200% better than the factory dbm
setup.The fit is perfect, feeding is perfect. The only issue I've had is with top loading the fourth round. After I learned where to apply pressure when loading the fourth round, I've had zero issues.

[cwlongshot]

Re visiting here.

Looking into Jefferson as Im considering a second Mini HB as a range gun.

I still enjoy my DIP just not TG shape. Just re scoped with a awesome Hawke 3-12x56 optic. Might be my perfect hunting scope.

Anyhow. Jefferson is out of stock just mow. Just emailed lookkng for ETA.

Merry Christmas folks.

CW

[Stinky Coyote]

I have both jefferson/hokey's bottom kits, the hinged and cz mag conversion. Both awesome, the hinged is the best most consistent feeding imo for all 4, weighs about 3 oz (same as factory bottom garbage/mag), the cz with mag is about 4 oz heavier and is a little stiff on first round or two then gets easier as you go and very light at the tail end. Both of mine feed great. I found the mag release on the cz kit a little long and for hunting I just shortened it up so it's harder to find/bump, that's about the only thing I could suggest to look at on that. My fav is the hinged bottom but glad I have both, I think for kids, in/out of truck type stuff and even scope on the detach mag makes more sense for kids. When I was running a red dot on it and had full open bridge the hinged is money...it actually loads super easy from top as well.

I suggest everyone buys both...

Hokey...I'll get you my email so you can send me a few points of the profits.

ps on cz mags, one can help things with spring and polishing feed lips to ease the first couple round feeding...so not really a thing...just was able to point out differences between them since I have both

[cwlongshot]

I have a 20moa Rail and am concerned about top load. Yea I could open dump in and close. But thats been hit or miss on other rifles so not a reliable
Option.
BUT, I dont "need" this rail and have purchased a few Talley bases as Dinny mentions. These are very good and being separate front and back, as well as solid base rings... The pluses are VERY GOOD! Weight savings, room to load, better then Pic for movement.

[cwlongshot]

I got a email back from Jefferson and was able to grab a hinged floorplate Bottom Metal!

Interestingly, I also just checked tge Med and ext High Tally Ultra Lite base and ring sets and the difference is NOT 1/16"!!!

I bought both in anticipation of mounting one here with this 56mm Hawke and other on my Weatherby VGL with a 50mm Objective Riton. Looks like Ill be fine. Ill mount Riton in best height and use other here on the Howa.

My plan is to pick up a Heavy Barreled Howa Mini action in the spring and use the Boyds Tactical stock this rifle was in. (I moved this back to the Factory stock.) then use the Outer Impact 20MOA rail and DIP Bottom Metal (with Forum logo) on the HB build. I hope its as good a shooter as this one.

This one will go back as a favorite hunting rifle.

CW

[cwlongshot]

WOW WOW WOW!

Super impressed with quality fit and finish of this Bottom metal!!! Its light as a feather too!

Looks are over the top! Complete gun ready ta hunt is just over 6#!!

CW