Can for 12 inch grendel sbr

[snarkscarbine]

Absolutely can, but I've run the gamut of heavy buffers, springs, bootleg carriers, adjustable gas blocks, etc, and it's still gassy and filthy.

[A5BLASTER]

At this point after getting to try several cans on my 12.5 inch over the last 3 weeks, this is what my decision is.

It ain't worth the trouble and hassle of the paperwork and dealing with the government and the price to buy into it.

If I still have to wear hearing protection while useing the can then it's a waist of my time, energy, effort and money.

So moving on to other toys, no can for me.

[TNhuntsman]

I'm getting a can for my 12" grendel but it's gonna be my new deer rifle so since I don't wear ear protection when hunting, seems like a good move for me, since I'll only take a shot or 2.
Shooting for groups from a bench then probably best to wear ear protection too. Some people advice wearing double ear protection, the suppressor could count as one layer.🙂

[Harpoon1]

I started wearing electronic ear pro while hunting a few years ago. They enhance your own hearing so much I feel handicapped, almost deaf now without them. Cost around a $100, with no waiting period or tax stamp!

[Cheyenne Bodie]

Any decently quiet can will have more backpressure by nature. A PRI gas buster CH, adjustable block, and/or adjustable carrier should help a great deal with that. I believe Lantac makes a traditional style BCG which vents forward to quell the same issues if you go that route, though I've never used one.

[ricsmall]

At this point after getting to try several cans on my 12.5 inch over the last 3 weeks, this is what my decision is.

It ain't worth the trouble and hassle of the paperwork and dealing with the government and the price to buy into it.

If I still have to wear hearing protection while useing the can then it's a waist of my time, energy, effort and money.

So moving on to other toys, no can for me.

A5, which cans have you tried, out of curiosity? To get my 12” where I feel it’s hearing safe required me to tune gun to stop all the port pop. I run an adjustable gas block, H3 buffer, and super stiff 458 socom buffer spring in a pistol brace setup. It’s REALLY nice like that. I can put my can on an 18” rifle length gas with H2, adjustable GB, and rifle spring and it’s just about as good. Having said that, my hearing is probably not as sensitive as some folks, due to prior damage shooting without ear pro in snap situations. If I wake up at 2am and everything is dead quiet, I hear a constant ringing. It sucks.

[A5BLASTER]

A5, which cans have you tried, out of curiosity? To get my 12” where I feel it’s hearing safe required me to tune gun to stop all the port pop. I run an adjustable gas block, H3 buffer, and super stiff 458 socom buffer spring in a pistol brace setup. It’s REALLY nice like that. I can put my can on an 18” rifle length gas with H2, adjustable GB, and rifle spring and it’s just about as good. Having said that, my hearing is probably not as sensitive as some folks, due to prior damage shooting without ear pro in snap situations. If I wake up at 2am and everything is dead quiet, I hear a constant ringing. It sucks.

I got to try all threads size's of the ultra series from tbac, all 3 sandman cans and a omega something.

And I had to drop some stupid heavy buffers and extra power springs to get my ar grendels to run and it didn't take very many rounds and my rifles were just to dirty for my liking.

I also have ringing in my ears and still have to wear double hearing protection when at the range. I wear some nice noise canclation ear muffs while hunting.

After trying those cans. It's just not worth the hassle and money to get a can for my rifles.

[Bigs28]

To me it's worth every penny. I use a tbac ultra 7 6.5 can on my 12" barrels. I run a jpscs h2 with adjustable gas block. If i were shooting large volume of rounds i will still wear hearing protection but when I'm walking the woods i won't. Ive shot multiple animals while hunting that i knew where there because i didn't have hearing pro on and firing a couple shots doesn't make my ears ring.

[Klem]

I have to agree with the guys.

I don't use suppressors because they reduce sound for me...I do it for their collateral benefits, and for others.

I always wear double-ears when using suppressors; they just don't reduce the sound enough to be hearing safe. If it's not dangerously high then it turns into a cumulative thing. Over time it builds up regardless of whether it is only one shot here, and one shot there. Seems to me that if you shorten your barrel to make it more compact, then fit a suppressor it kind of defeats the original intention. And if you need to wear ears with a suppressor regardless then you may as well have an unsuppressed barrel length the combined length of the shorter barrel + suppressor - and enjoy the benefits of higher velocity. Or not use a suppressor at all and enjoy the compact length.

A couple of situations where suppressors are actually useful and more than just 'cool factor', 'like the military' or 'forbidden fruit' is when the gun is subsonic or heavy recoiling. Suppressed 338L is a lot more manageable with the suppressor acting as a brake. And of course a super-quiet .22LR or even a subsonic Blackout; which is louder in an AR but still a lot quieter than supersonic bullets. If keeping the noise down from your prey or support animals (e.g. dogs) and neighbours is important then sure, but as a mechanism for your own hearing protection...Meh...

[Cheyenne Bodie]

OSS makes some good options with low back pressure, though not the quietest because of it. No POI shift with them, like the TBAC cans. If I wanted a can to just throw on any rifle I'd go with an OSS.

My personal sentiments regarding rifle cans are pretty much stated by Klem.

[Bigs28]

Klem i agree that it's not hearing safe but if you do take a shot without hearing protection a suppressor definitely helps. It's not a habit. I try not to. My hearing pro is always on me but sometimes i jump a hog walking and just don't have the time if i want to take a shot.

[FALer]

Absolutely can, but I've run the gamut of heavy buffers, springs, bootleg carriers, adjustable gas blocks, etc, and it's still gassy and filthy.

Good to know, I have zero experience with TBAC.

[LRRPF52]

The biggest advantage I see from suppressors is that you eliminate most of the muzzle blast.

This helps you focus more on the sight picture without the obnoxious distraction of concussion.

It really helps ease new shooters into centerfire rifles after learning on rimfire.

Rimfire .22 CBs are excellent training tools as well for the same reason, as there is no sound other than the firing pin hitting the rim of the case.

Suppressed is really fun on sub guns, as long as someone else cleans them.

[TNhuntsman]

TBAC offers one free cleaning a year...the Dominus sure looks nice, waiting to see if they come out with an 8" version.

[LRRPF52]

TBAC offers one free cleaning a year...the Dominus sure looks nice, waiting to see if they come out with an 8" version.

It's 1.8" diameter, so no need for a longer can. They're already getting better dB readings than the Ultra 7 with it.

[therealtrikky]

I don't know anything about it & it's only just been "released".. Guys over at TX predator hunting did some testing with the new Dead Air Nomad L & claim it's one of the quietest cans they've ever seen.. I'm still a ways from getting another can, but if the hype on this one rings true it may be worth taking a look at.


https://deadairsilencers.com/products/nomad-l/

[TNhuntsman]

It's 1.8" diameter, so no need for a longer can. They're already getting better dB readings than the Ultra 7 with it.

Yeah, was hoping for suppression a little better than the ultra 9 for shooting out of a 2-man stand or shooting house.

Ended up buying a Nomad-L yesterday, supposed to have really good db reduction, it's just a little on the heavy side though. Looking forward to using on my 12" grendel.

[LRRPF52]

Yeah, was hoping for suppression a little better than the ultra 9 for shooting out of a 2-man stand or shooting house.

Ended up buying a Nomad-L yesterday, supposed to have really good db reduction, it's just a little on the heavy side though. Looking forward to using on my 12" grendel.

You want something more quiet than an Ultra 9? I've been around suppressors in the military, OCONUS with the top-end Euro cans, and have RO'd or spotted for countless people with a lot of the later generation cans on the market. I have yet to hear anything with supers that is more quiet than an Ultra 9 that is 1.5" diameter.

The Ultra 9 is at the threshold of what a 1.5" diameter suppressor will provide across the industry. I'm not aware of any cans in its diameter class that will get much below 133-136dB with .308, and 130dB with 5.56. You definitely aren't going to match them for accuracy, suppression, lightweight, and repeatability all in one package.

There are several reasons why they are chosen by competitive shooters, hunters, and .mil. The new Dominus is going to change things a lot in the QD suppressor world.



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[TNhuntsman]

The TBAC Dominus looks to be a fantastic can and Zak from thunder beast said they are considering a longer version, which I would buy but if they decide against it I will probably end up with a 6.25" Dominus in the future anyway.
I started out with the R2 and the Nomad-L for value and suppression, the Nomad-L is metering around 131-132 in this test. https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2019...ering-day/

2 suppressors is probably the beginning, got the R2 as a loaner for family members to use when they hunt with me and the Nomad-L for db reduction on my 12" grendel. Waiting for the EA Lux to be metered and compared to the Dominus to see how they compete for a lightweight can.