Working Up Load with Power Pro Varmit PPV

[mel]

decided to sight in the scope a hair better with 2 more 5 shot groups only chronoed while sighting in the scope pretty much 2465fps across those 5 shots


and then after shot the 2nd group on this thats not circled the circled group is out of my creed im still working on

[grayfox]

All 8 of the Grrrs taken together:
avg 2471, SD-15.5, ES-48

[mel]

i forgot to post this from the other day first time out with my drop in trigger lol couldnt get stable enough in the damn wind shoulda been shooting prone
[video=youtube;0qoMaRumgwk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qoMaRumgwk[/video]

[mel]

im half tempted to pick up another digital scale like i use for my pyro projects , what ive noticed is on my scale i can actually trickle in a bunch of the ppv powder and theres a pretty good range were the scale says its dead on. thinking a digital scale might be a lil more accurate for measuring the ppv then my beam scale

chronoed some more creedmoor rounds and they were all within a few fps of each other

[Mark611]

I did the same thing yesterday, shooting the 65Grr next to my new 6.5 Creed, no pix but I will as soon as I get things where I want them with my hand loads I will show and tell, In reading ur results on the PPV powder, which is not currently available locally to me, it seems like it a good powder for the 6.5Grr, but for now I have to use what I have, so keep us posted on ur results

[mel]

prolly wont be shooting anymore till either end of this week or next week, highs for the week are pretty much int he low to mid 20's now.

i ordered a sample pack of the midsouth 123g monster match bullets to try out since i had to order more eld-ms im hoping they shoot just as good since they are a good bit cheaper then the eld-m.Going to try them in both the creed and the grendel.

debating if i want to put my 6-25x56 glass back on the grendel or leave the atn on it, the atn is nice since i can record with it and go back and watch all my shots after not to mention i can just laser range the target and the atn auto adjusts for range and wind , kinda cheating , but kinda nice not having to dial lol

[Mark611]

My brother tried some of those bullets from MS, he said they ok from BCA upper but not so good from his Sanders, His understanding those bullets are made by Nosler, my bro says they might shoot better if the tip were more uniform? that's a lot of glass ur using! I thought 20x SWFA SS was a lot! LOL!!!!

[mel]

My brother tried some of those bullets from MS, he said they ok from BCA upper but not so good from his Sanders, His understanding those bullets are made by Nosler, my bro says they might shoot better if the tip were more uniform? that's a lot of glass ur using! I thought 20x SWFA SS was a lot! LOL!!!!

it is but it was cheap and has awesome reviews its an ade optics scope supposed to be a millet clone more then clear enough for me at 25x and to be honest at 1000-1200 im only using 10-12x , it looks really good at 25x downside is the 35mm tube damn rings are expensive , its way better then a similar priced athlon

but for the price im prolly picking up 1 or 2 more of them been thinking about picking up a phoneskope adapter so i can record threw it with my cell






and this was 1150 y with the other atn i have this is the newer atn xsight 4k pro 5-20
[video=youtube;33LKATuXx04]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33LKATuXx04[/video]
ive actually got to use alot more magnification with the digital scopes at range

[Daveycrockett]

Let us know how that sample pack shoots.

[mel]

Let us know how that sample pack shoots.

will do hoping to have them by end of the week , going to shoot some more today plan is to chrono 5 more out of my next set, 5 shot group at 100 , then send 10 at 1000y + and see how they do
warmer then expected today with only 5mph winds so figure i better do it while i can

[mel]

pretty awesome results out of the handloads today

5 round group + chrono data - 1 error @ 30* outside had 20 rounds to try but dropped 1 in the snow/mud loading the mag so i didnt use it
still at 28.3g ppv in hornaday brass , cci #400 and eld-m 123g bullets @ 2.250
#1 2476
#2 2464
#3 2467
#4 2471
#5 no reading
14 out of 14 hits on my 20 inch gong at 823 yards

ill get some group pics and video up here in a bit when i download it off my scope

[mel]

well heres a few shots for some reason the second clip of the shots doesnt want to encode so i can upload it , if u turn the volume way up u can hear the hits over the wind noise 5-7 mph winds today
[video=youtube;wYGJtPX_pxk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYGJtPX_pxk[/video]

edit just got tracking on my mid south order it will be here on thursday so friday or saturday i should get to try out those mid south monster match bullets

[mel]

turns out the part of the other clip was corrupt but i was able to cut the working section out of it. my sd card must be going bad
so heres a few more shots
[video=youtube_share;0YR2ktyqjvw]https://youtu.be/0YR2ktyqjvw[/video]

im going to cut a disc down to 8-10 inches here maybe this weekend and make another gong to set out there

[Daveycrockett]

That's awesome. I'm thinking of getting some to try myself. Will be watching for results!

[mel]

That's awesome. I'm thinking of getting some to try myself. Will be watching for results!

if the cows out in the field cooperate today i will try again at 1000+ that was the plan yesterday but 823 was the furthest i could get out from the gong without putting cows between me and it
i also forgot to post the group picture yesterday which is this one , not the best but never are when im shooting threw the chrono all theese have been done standing shooting off a flat bed truck

[mel]

anyone got recommendations for a lighter bullet good for long range stuff ? so far ive just stuck with the eld-m cause well they have worked great , but i wouldnt mind trying out a lighter bullet is it worth giving up the bc for 200 or so fps ?

[Lemonaid]

My Rap dose quite well with the Nosler 90 Varmageddon. BC .340, velocity around 2900. I would like to try them at long range in the spring.
Check out how they do with a ballistic calculator and they look pretty good.
http://www.65grendel.com/forum/showthrea...nge-report
Pretty economical at around .20 each
https://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/i...-100-count

[mel]

1100+ yards same load 28.3g ppv hornaday brass , cc1 #400 eld-m 123g
[video=youtube;MnM3yvwSMIs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnM3yvwSMIs[/video]

think the battery in my laser is going dead cause it wouldnt read anything over 103x yards but i knew i was behind my 1100 yard marker so i just left the 1011y reading in my scope from the laser and held over , on target in 2 shots
this is about the limit for the atn xsight hd as u can see in the video , so to stretch out any further ill have to put my glass back on or put the atn x-sight 4k pro 5-20 back on it
will probably be the 4k pro till i get an adapter so i can take video threw my glass scope

and picture looking back twards were i was shooting from when i ran up to paint the gong ( should have painted it before hand )


shooting position was to the left and back of the close tress in the center of the pic to the left side , if i drop back to the far tress its just shy of 2 miles of range

[tdbru]

if you look in the recent edition of the Sierra manual Alliant's PPV is the or one of the top velocity listed powders for the 6.5 Grendel. in the 15th Speer it's also right up there. in my 22" howa i've been getting great velocities.

for Sierra's 85gr. HP they list 33.8 of APPV for 3050 fps (assuming they're using a 24" tube). since i was running a bolt gun i rounded to 34gr. and got 2904 to 2949 the other day (40F). in the summer time (july - 80F) it runs from 2962 to 3100.

Sierra lists there 123gr. HPBT matchking at 2550 with 29.2gr. of APPV. and i checked, yep 24" universal receiver. and these would be SAAMI pressure level loads that Sierra lists.

Speer also uses a 24" barrel 1-8 and say SAAMI spec is 52K PSI (no CUP established). they're seeing 2483 with 27.3 gr. of APPV with their 120gr. Gold Dot Rifle. so i've been please with APPV with the 85gr. Sierra varmint bullet so far, and have some 130gr. ELD-M loaded up but have yet to get a chance to run them.

from my data you can see there is some temp dependence that i've noted. ymmv of course, and there are many useful powders for the Grendel. but so far i'm liking what i'm seeing with APPV with respect to velocity.
-tdbru

[mel]

tommorow i get to try out the midsouth monster match bullets hoping they shoot well , i think im going to order up some 107g tmk's to try out as well
swapping the 4k pro onto my grendel as its much better suited to 1000y+ in a 20 inch target